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[SunkenCiv]

"Doubting the Story of Exodus."
Source: Jewish World Review
Published: April 23, 2001 Author: Dennis Prager
Posted on 04/23/2001 12:15:31 PDT by jasowas
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3ae47f533d21.htm

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[Fred Nerks]

'Summarizing the Jewish divide, Carmy observes that liberals hold the biblical text "doubted until independently proven true," while for fellow traditionalists "it is true unless conclusively disproved."'

See? Like I tried to tell you once before, in the Electric Universe, when babies are born, they are either positively or negatively charged...and we know which the liberals are, don't we? ha ha ha

[sageb1]

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[tarheelswamprat]

I have no doubt Moses existed. However, what I'd really like to know is what his real name was. "Moses" was not really an authentic Hebrew name, at least in those ancient times. It is of Egyptian derivation and literally means "born of the Nile". There were variations in spelling (moses, meses, mosis, mose, etc.) as is common even in today's languages, but it was a tradition of the Egyptian naming protocol for Pharoahs and other royalty.

Thus we had "Rameses" (Ra, meses - Ra, born of the Nile), "Thutmosis - Thutmose" (Thut, or Thoth - Thoth, born of the Nile), and others. The tradition of Moses as a "Prince of Egypt" may have been more literal than we know.

[ApplegateRanch]

Sperling contends that if traditional accounts of the origins of Judaism had not recorded a founder, "analogy would have required postulating him; and that is probably what happened" when ancients wrote the Bible.

That's one of the more important assertions in the newly issued second edition of the Encyclopaedia Judaica (Macmillan Reference, 22 volumes, $1,995). Of the monumental work's 21,000-plus articles, 2,600 are brand new and nearly half were updated from the 1972 original. Sperling was the editor for revisions regarding the Bible.

Guess I can save myself $1995 + tax, shipping, and handling.

I can read more than enough Bible-bashing debunking "scholarship" for free, on-line.

[protest1]

Of course Moses existed and wrote the first five books of the Bible.

Here are two link defending scripture.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v20/i4/moses.asp

http://www.carm.org/bible/jedp_b.htm

John 5:45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust. 46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. 47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

[JewishRighter]

"Rabbi S. David Sperling, isn't certain that Moses even existed or,"

I'm not sure "rabbi" Sperling even exists, either.

[SteveH]

(For something I am looking into) Where can one find out more about writings concerning the "gate of wisdom" or the 49 (or 50) "gates of wisdom"? (Especially in Greek, even if only a translation)?

[ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton]

I picked up a video at the library on the Exodus. It was pretty stunning. The thesis of this was that the parting of the sea actually was on the other side of Saudi Arabia.

It also showed some underwater photography of chariot wreckage and from the wheel design it could be dated back to Moses time. Most of the wheels where encrusted with coral but there was one that was brass plated that was very well preserved.

This is all in Mussie land so it is unlikely that permission will ever be granted to examine it closer. Probably if you picked anything up from under the sea you'd be shot immediately or worse.

Also the underwater geography make it so that there is a shallow 'walkway' exactly where you could walk across. Also the description of the land fits the bible to a tee.

I guess it is obvious that I thought it was convincing.