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To: Smokin' Joe
Unfortunately, as the cultists become ascendant in power, they often control the most important resource of all--the means of 'educating' our children, from infancy to college and beyond.

Young minds taught the false catechism of the environmentalists will seldom question the interpretations of the high priests of academia, and remedial 'education' is accomplished via the popular media for those who have insufficient background in science or personal experience (decried as 'anecdotal evidence'), or who are too innumerate to decipher the contortions of valid (and invalid) data to allegedly support a foregone 'conclusion'.

The attempt to seize control goes beyond mere recruiting via the educational industry, but to the point of weeding out those with opposing viewpoints early on as students to deny them accreditation, denying them funding for research if they are already the candidates for or holders of advanced degrees, or merely shouting them down instead of engaging in honest and open debate in the halls of academia and beyond.

So I'm not the only one who thinks this is what's happening.

Instead, there is a counterculture of 'working' (industry employed) and research scientists, who quietly teach our children and grandchildren--and anyone else who is inclined to learn--the fallacies of bad (junk) science and how to spot them.

Excluding religion, the world can be divided into two categories. Western culture is "deal focused" whereby its citizens live (social contract) and work (work contract) via an individualistic existence that can ideally be thought of as Freedom and Responsibility. This represents about 15% of the world's people. The rest of the world's people live and work via "relationship focused" cultures where life is very hierarchical and everything revolves around the family and established family social stature.

The problem is, the deal focused culture requires a lot of responsibility from its citizens. It is also becoming very difficult to raise children in a deal focused culture. I therefore (well, my wife) choose to raise a family in southern Spain, a country where deal focused Europe meets relationship focused Africa and the Middle East. I'm also genetically about 25% African, 15% American Indian and the rest European. My wife is 75% European and 25% Gypsy (she is from southern Spain). Therefore, our children tend to blend in with the genetically diverse children here.

It was a hard decision to make, but we think it's best for our children's future.

5 posted on 12/17/2006 12:21:41 AM PST by kipita (Conservatives: Freedom and Responsibility------Liberals: Freedom from Responsibility)
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To: kipita
Interesting solution--and situation. A culture which focuses on responsibility cannot abdicate that responsibility every time something goes wrong, and there is a lot of that going on. Therein lies the difficulty.

The other problem is that the PC infection of the scientific community is global, funded by foundations which endow university chairs, fund research grants, and decry industry. Corporations contribute to the foundations to show how 'environmentally aware' they are, and government funding rounds out the budget.

There is no place to run, but some will be less affected than others.

Not, mind you, by the alleged problems, so much as by the imposition of 'solutions' based on junk science.

The answer to that is education, of ones' self, of entire communities, and especially of children to debunk the nonsense, to be able to understand the flaws in logic which allow those with an agenda to distort reality to their ends, no matter what side of an issue they might be on.

You will need that no matter where you are.

It is only in the past two generations that America has really strayed from familial heierarchies and the "mobile" concept has taken hold. I have to wonder if that was not promoted to undermine family structure to leave a vacumn for the socialists to try to sieze control of children. My wife is American Indian, so family ties are strong on her side, and on my side we date back to early colonial times in the Americas, and family remains important there as well (old families, not old money). There is no substitute for the support we can give our children and grand (and great-grand) children, nor for the support they can give to us. It is a prized system as old as people, and the most basic unit of government, one which needs little interference. We take care of our own.

I can see why you would be attracted to a lifestyle which is largely disappearing from the American cultural landscape, but regret that more here are not rediscovering it.

Perhaps we can keep the paradigm alive until the pendulum swings back.

6 posted on 12/17/2006 2:25:46 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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