[Bear_Slayer]

Thanks I appreciate the info on the 60 grain sub sonic

That looks to be where I will concentrate my purchases.

[Beagle8U]

I looked at the Aguila chart and the 30 grain is nearly twice as fast as the 60 grain and the FPE ( foot pounds energy) is higher at the muzzle and at 100 yds.

I think that it would have to be the most powerful 22 LR rimfire made if you can find the plated solid points for the extra penetration.

I buy them from Cabelas and all they list is the plain lead HP.