Posted on 12/08/2006 3:50:26 PM PST by paulat
Lock was cut on gate barring road San Francisco man died close to feed, shelter in wilderness, officials say The Associated Press Updated: 3:25 p.m. PT Dec 8, 2006 CENTRAL POINT, Ore. - A San Francisco man who got stranded with his family in the snowy wilderness had taken a wrong turn in the car down a logging road that is normally blocked by a gate, but vandals had cut the lock, authorities said Friday.
James Kim, 35, was found dead of exposure in a mountain creek Wednesday, two days after his wife and the couple's two daughters were rescued from the car.
The gate had been locked for the winter Nov. 1, after the end of deer hunting season, so that "people don't mistakenly go down that road," said Patty Burel, spokeswoman for the federal Bureau of Land Management.
Searchers looking for the family found the gate open, Burel said. An investigation is under way to find out who cut the lock.
The one-lane strip of pavement known as Bear Camp Road is often used in summer by Rogue River rafters and in winter by hunters, cross-country skiers and families cutting Christmas trees.
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I sit and watch the salmon, the beaver, and "my" otter. This critter actually came up and slept on the deck on afternoon. Amazing place.
We should remember him by BEING PREPARED.
You're mistaken. Many accounts of deaths on Everest state that the deceased are found naked, as the late stages of hypothermia will lead to sensations of overheating. That coupled with the effects of altitude result in people tearing their clothing off.
I had never heard of it either, but apparently it does happen.
From here:
Patients who become slightly hypothermic have altered judgment (referred to being "cold stupid" by some laypersons), and they can exhibit bizarre behavior such as paradoxical undressing, in which they remove clothing despite the cold. This behavior may exacerbate heat loss, creating a downward cycle to worsening hypothermia.
I don't see any quote at your link that resembles the one you "quoted."
There was nothing at your link with those words.
Yes...I agree. But in addition, for those almost inevitable times, when we all encounter circumstances for which we are not prepared, we can also remember him for the decisions he made during those tragic events that allowed his wife and daughters to live.
There was nothing at your link with those words.
Check his link again.....it's about half way down the page.
"Patients who become slightly hypothermic experience altered judgment (referred to being cold stupid by some mountaineers).
They can exhibit bizarre behavior such as paradoxical undressing, where they remove clothing. This behavior may worsen heat loss, creating a vicious cycle.
The author has personal experience in trying to care for a mountaineer with hypothermia who was throwing off his coat and resisting efforts to be warmed. The ambient temperature was 15°F in a snowstorm.
Now there have been posted plenty of info and links to prove you are plain wrong, yet I have not see you acknowledge that . There is no reason to make other people feel bad or to call what they post ignorant or twaddle. Everyone is saddened by Mr Kim's passing and the fact this had to happen. Hopefully now people will become more aware of what to keep in their cars and to check in, and how to survive if this were to happen to them. Prayers for the Kim family.~~Pandora~~
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1751267/posts?q=1&&page=1#1
Please see the above link. Thx.
Thanks for the link but I really think there is little more to say about this anymore. Mr Kim is gone, he made a heroic effort to save his family and thankfully his wife and girls are alive. The best thing now is to hope vandals will think twice before cutting locks, police will do more checks of such areas and people will have learned a lesson so Mr Kim did not die in vain. I was not looking to fight with you Paulat at all. If I seemed to be it was not meant that way. I usually enjoy you posts. Have a great night. ~~Pandora~~
It's there, about 1/4 of the way down the page. Search for "paradoxical".
I read some of the news reports on this case and a few of them said that the road was paved.
Is that accurate? It certainly wasn't a paved road back when I drove it but then as I said that was many years ago.
Taking that route in poor weather wasn't very bright. I wonder if the Kim's spoke with anyone about their travel plans and the route they were planning to take.
The resort they were driving to doesn't suggest that anyone take that route even in clear weather. They advise anyone driving over from Grants Pass to take the highway that drops you off on 101 just south of the Oregon border. They don't even mention the route the Kim's take and don't show it on their map. I would think that any local would have advised against taking that route.
It's not paved, and tonights paper is saying that there was no lock on the gate.
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