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To: raptor29
Well, until you figure out that A) USC's stadium is about 15 miles from the Rose Bowl (used by UCLA since they left off sharing USCs); B) that the Rose Bowl is played in January - at which point the midwest has only seen maybe a weeks worth of days that it's been as high as 65 in two-and-a-half months, and now averages in the upper 20s (between 40 and 0); C) Realize that there are Big10 teams that put up huge passing numbers in that time frame; and D) that playoff games in the NFL aren't all played in the South and coastal West, E) that Big-10/Pac-10 games played in September and October during the time in question are pretty evenly split; then there's not much point in this conversation which has already gone further than I really care.

“Pasadena, California got its start in the Midwest during a cold 1873 winter. An Indiana resident Dr. Thomas Balch Elliott assembled together a group of more than 100 families that had grown tired of the hard Indiana winters and desired more moderate weather throughout the year. They called themselves the California Colony of Indiana.”

97 posted on 12/06/2006 3:00:31 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

Geez, more inane guff. I can assure you that the players and coaches in Big Ten football programs do not share your views on how unequipped or unable they are to compete outside of their home cities, time zones, and/or weather comfort zones. They would probably scoff at the notions, frankly. None of your listed points seem applicable or counter arguments I've made, they just sort of exist in space. NFL playoffs being played in all weather? That makes my point, for crying out loud. All those NFL superstar QB's I listed from lousy weather locations illustrate the folly of your argument that you can't pass effectively if you play in a cold weather town. Most quarterbacks and receivers will tell you that they actually have a greater advantage over the defense when the field is wet, given they know where they are going each play, and it's harder for the defense to react quickly on a wet surface. You still haven't explained why Notre Dame can pass so well all the time and send so many quarterbacks to the NFL. Hell, Notre Dame beat USC 11 straight times during the 80's and 90's, and half of those games would have been out here. Why did the top Big Ten schools have such difficulty?

Bottom line is this. Michigan honks have been yapping for weeks about how they and Ohio State are the two best teams in the country, and that they should be playing for the national title, and that other teams weren't in their league this year and all this. Now, you're telling me that what they actually were saying is "We're the best two teams in the country, as long as we get to play these other teams we're better than in the cold weather, and we don't have to travel very far, and both sides agree to run the ball a lot." If you guys are that good, let's see you beat USC, how about just once? How about this year, when you have a three-year starter at QB and a three-year starter at running back, and the "best front seven in the country" and all this, while USC has a first year QB, all freshmen running backs, and is replacing two Heisman winners? Even though you will have the incredibly disadvantage of having to play the game in 65 degree weather, and the havoc that can wreak on a team's execution (my God), why don't you show me something and beat USC, just once this year, before you ever expect me or anyone else out here to listen to your claims about national dominance.


98 posted on 12/06/2006 3:42:43 PM PST by raptor29
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