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It Can Pay To Lose In College Football
Forbes ^ | 12.05.06 | Matt Woolsey

Posted on 12/05/2006 7:33:22 AM PST by sean327

This year’s college football bowl pairings were released Sunday, and the last-place teams from the biggest conferences will be crying all the way to the bank. The top teams from the small conferences will be crying poverty.

In NCAA Division I football, profits are higher for doormats from the six "major" conferences--Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-10 and Southeastern--than for champions from the five smaller conferences.

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TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: bcs; bowls; collegefootball; playoff
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To: Bat_Chemist
Forget everyone but the conference champs. Let the 11 conference champs play, and the heck with the rest.

That would not be fair to Michigan if that system was in effect now.

21 posted on 12/05/2006 8:14:07 AM PST by Boston Blackie
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To: Boston Blackie

A championship is the championship. Did Pittsburg have to defeat the Colts twice last year in the playoffs to advance? OK, bad example, with that horrible interception call, I guess they kind of did.


22 posted on 12/05/2006 8:16:11 AM PST by Always Right
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To: sean327

On the positive side, a 16 team play-off would better determine a national champ and bring increased revenues from viewership. On the negative side, it would require up to three additional games played beyond regular season - bowl game now. Injuries and time away from classes/study (as if that matters) would increase.


23 posted on 12/05/2006 8:18:31 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: sean327
Okay... let's assume they do the 11 conference winner plus 5 at large playoff system. I'll assume for the sake of argment that BCS rank will serve as the at-large qualifier.

The 11 conference winners would be:

The at-large teams would be:<>

Looking in from the outside would be Arkansas (12), West Virginia (13), and Rutgers (16).

Assuming playoff seeding by current BCS ranks, the first round matchups would be:

So, 2... maybe 3... good games in the first round. We'll assume for the sake of argument that the higher seeds win across the board, except for Auburn. Round 2:

Not a bad set of matchups... perhaps the top-8 should have just been in the playoff to begin with rather than the yawner of a first round we saw for the most part. Also, with two Big-10 vs. SEC matchups, we'd get a chance to see which conference was really better. Florida would have to go through three straight Big 10 teams to win the whole thing...

24 posted on 12/05/2006 8:21:14 AM PST by kevkrom (WARNING: The above post may contain sarcasm... if unsure, please remember to use all precautions)
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To: Bat_Chemist

LOL, why not let Division II schools in. Under that system, Middle Tennessee State is 7-5 and a CONFERENCE CHAMP! Those Conference Champ Blue Raiders lost to Oaklahoma by 59-0! Your Conference Champ only rule would eliminate 5 of the top 10 teams in the country.


25 posted on 12/05/2006 8:21:20 AM PST by Always Right
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To: kevkrom
Not a bad set of matchups... perhaps the top-8

Top 8 is the best we could hope for. Except they would probably limit it to two schools from the same conference like they do now, so Wisconsin is screwed. Maybe the Badgers would finally be convinced to schedule one decent outside conference game.

26 posted on 12/05/2006 8:24:29 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Always Right

Unfortunately money is the root of the problem. Professional sports has prostituted itself to the point that they have become cheap whores. Get as many teams into the playoff race as possible .... the sucker fans will keep shelling out their money. Regular seasons are nothing more than an extension of spring training/exhibition seasons.

The bowl games stand in the way of a national playoff system but we still watch them.


27 posted on 12/05/2006 8:26:47 AM PST by Boston Blackie
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To: Always Right
Although the USC-Michigan game should be good.

Seeing the way UCLA handled USC, I'd predict the Rose Bowl will be over very early.

28 posted on 12/05/2006 8:28:50 AM PST by Ditto
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To: Dixie Yooper
OSU and Michigan are going to get beaten badly because they haven't played a game for at least two weeks longer than their opponents. They get beat in the bowl games every year because of this and will continue to get beat every year.

The Big 10 won both it's BCS bowl games last year, plus the biggest non BCS bowl game when Wisconsin beat Auburn in the Capitol One Bowl. The Big 10 lost all the minor bowls which were played with a much shorter rest period. Your layoff theory was 0-7 last year.

29 posted on 12/05/2006 8:30:32 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Proud2BeRight

"On the positive side, a 16 team play-off would better determine a national champ and bring increased revenues from viewership. On the negative side, it would require up to three additional games played beyond regular season - bowl game now. Injuries and time away from classes/study (as if that matters) would increase."

The negative side of the argument doesn't fly, the NCAA could implement a 10 game regular season, and hold the playoff during the tradition Bowl time. A 10 game season would give the 2 teams that play in the championship 13 games. They play 13 games now if they go to a bowl. If the playoff is scheduled during the traditional bowl weeks no class will be missed, the kids will be on winter break.


30 posted on 12/05/2006 8:34:08 AM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: sean327

But that would offer a bigger negative for all the schools; less games = less revenue. What do they play now? 12? That would be two less games for all schools.


31 posted on 12/05/2006 8:46:49 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Ditto
Seeing the way UCLA handled USC, I'd predict the Rose Bowl will be over very early.

Michigan like UCLA has a very good pass rush. USC has very dangerous recievers, but yeah, if Michigan can stop the USC passing attack with a good pash rush, USC is probably in for a long day.

32 posted on 12/05/2006 8:48:30 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Boston Blackie
Unfortunately money is the root of the problem. Professional sports has prostituted itself to the point that they have become cheap whores. Get as many teams into the playoff race as possible .... the sucker fans will keep shelling out their money. Regular seasons are nothing more than an extension of spring training/exhibition seasons.

Hockey is the worst offender with the NBA coming in a close second. The NFL isn't OK (but some 9-7 teams do sneak in) and you can't really complain about MLB.

The problem is the 32 Bowl games bring in a lot of money. The BCS championship hasn't killed the other Bowls, but it has cheapened them just a bit. Really, both Michigan and USC are disappointed going to 'only' the Rose Bowl. I think they fear a playoff system will cheapen the other bowls more.

33 posted on 12/05/2006 8:54:41 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Always Right

What about the year before?


34 posted on 12/05/2006 8:55:31 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: sean327
If the playoff is scheduled during the traditional bowl weeks no class will be missed, the kids will be on winter break.

Would that be the maybe 2% of Div 1 football players that actually attend classes, or am I over estimating. ;~))

35 posted on 12/05/2006 8:57:23 AM PST by Ditto
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To: Dixie Yooper

In 2004-2005 Rose Bowl, Vince Young lead Texas in a comeback against Michigan and won 38-37. Probably a case of the better team winning. But Iowa did defeat LSU in the Capitol One Bowl. Wisconsin beat Georgia in the Outback Bowl. Minnisota beat Alabama in the Music City Bowl. And the Buckeyes manhandled Oklahoma State in the Alamo Bowl. Purdue lost to Arizona State in the Sun Bowl. The Big Ten has done fairly well lately in Bowl games, especially the top of the conference. The Big Ten does not have the depth of the SEC.


36 posted on 12/05/2006 9:06:49 AM PST by Always Right
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There are WAYYYYYY too many bowl games. Teams that go 6-6 should NOT be in bowl games.

37 posted on 12/05/2006 9:13:44 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Prayers for my cousin Jeff and his family.)
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To: MikefromOhio

Why not have separate National Championships for the different divisions? They do it in High School..


38 posted on 12/05/2006 9:23:39 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Remembering Beirut Vets 1983 American Embassy April 1983/Marine Headquarters Oct.1983)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

I don't know.

There isn't a designation between D-1A and D-1AA anymore.

I don't think they could do it and beyond that I don't think the little guys would want to skip the paydays they get by going to Ohio State or Michigan to get their teeth kicked in.


39 posted on 12/05/2006 9:25:36 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Prayers for my cousin Jeff and his family.)
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To: MikefromOhio

You are probably right, it just seems to me that on the State level, teams are classified by school enrollment. I understand how a smaller school can compete in Basketball, but football requires a much larger pool of talent, or at some schools, criminals. ;^)


40 posted on 12/05/2006 9:30:19 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Remembering Beirut Vets 1983 American Embassy April 1983/Marine Headquarters Oct.1983)
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