do I really have to say it???
Posted on 12/04/2006 7:05:19 PM PST by skeptoid
PARIS -- Airbus said Monday it wants suppliers to its A350 XWB mid-sized airliner to fund over 15 percent of the cost of the project, the company's 11.6 billion euro ($15.4 billion) answer to the Boeing 787 "Dreamliner."
But the European planemaker said no decision had been made on the rest of the funding or where to build the new plane, planned to enter service in 2013. ...snip....
Gallois, who has warned workers to expect job cuts, said a decision on the A350 final assembly would be announced early in 2007 along with other restructuring measures. ....snip
(Excerpt) Read more at seattlepi.nwsource.com ...
"The Franco-German company says the A350 program also depends on the achievement of cost-cutting targets announced in the wake of a second setback to production of the 555-seater A380, revealed earlier this year. The superjumbo's overall two-year delay wiped 4.8 billion euros ($6.4 billion) off profit forecasts over four years and has forced Airbus to consider basing assembly work on new models at a single site, rather than splitting it among several countries."
>.So...the delayson the 380 have cost them 4.8 billion and they won't build the 350 unless they can cut costs on the 380. Not to mention the overweight condition of the 380 at this stage of production!
I think this is a great idea. This way, when Airbus/EADS goes toes-up, it'll pull the entire Euro-industrial system right down with it. What's not to love?
Airbus in trouble? Who would have ever seen that coming. Go Boeing!
Sure, where else are these Euro-based aerospace components suppliers going to go, especially now that they've tooled up to supply Airbus's designs?
This looks to me like some proposals I saw in the 1970s and 80s for industries and companies that later went down the tubes. They muust be truly desperate.
I'm glad I sold all my shares in EADS in 2001...
Though I absolutely love to trash Airburst, and the EU, primarily France, do you understand the economic impact on the US if the entire Euro-industrial system went toes up?
They're still trying to figure out who is more equal than others. Just give it time.
Imagine no possessions. It isn't hard to do. It isn't much fun, when the state owns you.
"Airbus wants suppliers to help fund A350"
Most companies don't announce this until they file for bankruptcy. I guess Airbus can foresee the future more than most.
I think I remember several instances where failing auto makers tried to get their parts suppliers to make a sacrifice to keep them in business. The end result tends to be that everyone gets screwed. That was around the time the City of Detroit went to the dogs.
I guess they would be interested in having a design software company work with them....../matching cables snicker
Hey there, Mr. Machine shop owner! We at Airbus know you already have tooling and material costs that are going through the roof and your customers want everything at the drop of a hat, but we know you can work with us! Just give us another 120 days on those titanium weldments you have 90% of your projected profits for the next year tied up in! Trust us, we will pay ASAP in our worthless currency!
WHAT AN F_ING JOKE!!!
Only the A350 paints has changed.
Boeing's Business Model Copied:
We feel under no obligation to update these figures in the future, any more than our competition does," Gallois said. Boeing refuses to say how much it is spending on the 787.
Boeing's Supplier Model Copied.
Toulouse, France-based Airbus is asking suppliers to the A350 program to fund 1.8 billion euros ($2.4 billion) of overall cost by paying for their own share of development work, in exchange for a share of profits - in the way Boeing has done for the 787.
Plus the Airbus A350 will use the same RR Trent 1000 Dreamliner engines only tailored and fully optimised for the Airbus A350.
Also on Monday Rolls-Royce PLC, the world's second-largest aircraft engine maker, said it has finalized an order with Airbus to supply its Trent engine for the A350 XWB.
The Trent 1000 engine for the new Boeing 787 aircraft brings the best value and lowest life cycle costs to airlines.
Now that the A380 is Colossal Failure, AirBus has copied Boeing's 787 Dreamliner.
Airbus has copied Boeing's 787 Dreamliner business plan, will start using 787 parts from the same suppliers plus increasing the share of composite materials to 50 percent to make the A350 7 percent cheaper to run and finally Gallois refused Monday to rule out state guarantees or refundable launch aid from governments.
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