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Vista: Microsoft's Last 'Big Bang' Operating System?
Information Week ^ | December 1, 2006 | Aaron Ricadela

Posted on 12/01/2006 7:49:10 PM PST by Zakeet

As he took the stage to usher Windows Vista to market, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer last week tried to put the software's laborious birth behind him. The company's 71,000 employees -- and the entire PC industry, for that matter -- could be excused for breathing a sigh of relief, too.

"It's an exciting thing to finally be here, and that's probably all I'll say about the past," Ballmer said at the unveiling from Nasdaq's cylindrical high-tech building in New York's Times Square. Office 2007 and Exchange Server 2007 also were introduced, and 30 more products will follow over the next year, all part of the same technology wave. "This is the biggest launch we've ever done," Ballmer said. Microsoft will spend $450 million marketing it all.

Yet for all the design missteps, overly ambitious plans, and personnel changes that led to a five-year lag between versions of Windows, questions about the future of Microsoft's software are top of mind for customers and partners. Ballmer swears to never let as much time elapse between Windows versions; the question now is how the company can keep churning out innovative products on a compressed timetable.

"Vista is the last of the Big Bang operating system releases from Microsoft," Credit Suisse research analyst Jason Maynard wrote in a report last month.

(Excerpt) Read more at informationweek.com ...


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To: Proud_texan
'm not saying they're great "new" features for any OS but for Windows they would include isolating drivers from the kernel process. Now, in theory, the driver for Cap'n Joe's Super Duper Really Neat video card won't crash the kernel.

Thanks for the response, Texan. I found the restore facility one of the best features in XP specifically for that reason: recovering from the installation of bad drivers. I wouldn't change OS just to save a few minutes in that process.

AV software - I use AVG at home - it's free but for commercial customers if they didn't need AV that would definitely be a significant savings - hard to believe it won't be required, though.

181 posted on 12/03/2006 4:04:09 AM PST by Northern Alliance
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To: Northern Alliance
Windows Vista needs to be secure in the operating kernel. If that's the case, all you would need is good third party firewall.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

182 posted on 12/03/2006 4:08:27 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
"I don't normally pirate, but with Micro$oft, I don't feel guilty about it.

Do you always find it easy to rationalize your stealing?

183 posted on 12/03/2006 4:12:31 AM PST by newfreep (islam is a political movement - vaporize mecca to destroy their source of "inspiration".)
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To: Northern Alliance
"hard to believe it won't be required, though."

I can't disagree but in my case I think it's because the virus threat has been around for 20 years; in fact the only infection I've ever had was the Harmon virus before AV software was as common as it is today and the need for AV software has been beat into me until it's "you gotta do it". Time will tell.

If it's possible it would be a big help. Heck, behind driver issues I think the second most common problems are with AV programs that use far too many system resources and sink their claws in so deep that it takes a clean reinstall to remove them. Grrrr.

Grisoft is very, very good. Another you may want to put on your list is Avast, also free for personal use.

184 posted on 12/03/2006 4:35:44 AM PST by Proud_texan
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To: ReignOfError
Come see your Apple dealer for a defenestration!

I like it. I like it a lot. If I find the time, look for it on YouTube.

I'd appreciate it if you'd let me know when you post it. I also thought of an animation variation which might be useful. Have the red circle w/bar-covered Windows logo actually sailing out of a window, perhaps with an added "falling" sound effect.

185 posted on 12/03/2006 6:51:35 AM PST by tarheelswamprat (So what if I'm not rich? So what if I'm not one of the beautiful people? At least I'm not smart...)
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To: ReignOfError
"...Assuming you *like* Linux, why would you want Big Bill to get its hands on it?..."

I have seen some eagerness from many quarters on this subject for Microsoft to get involved...In my opinion, it would be a bad thing.

There is a key point that many people seem to be unaware of (especially those who don't have much experience with Apple) and that is: Apple and Microsoft are not comparable companies except that they both produce OSes and associated software. Apple makes the majority of its money off of hardware, and that is what drives most of its strategy. It makes cool software to sell its hardware. Microsoft is nearly the exact reverse, making most of its money off of software with less profit on hardware.

I think the reason some people would be excited about Microsoft getting its hooks into Linux is that it would make it more "mainstream". That would have its advantages and disadvantages, which to those of us who understand a little better how Microsoft works, translates into a more negative assessment.

186 posted on 12/03/2006 8:17:35 AM PST by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: Howlin

I have not put IE7 on mine, it auto loaded on my father's pc and he is not happy.

Use Firefox and if you travel, use Firefox Portable and put it on a thumb drive and everything is right there.


187 posted on 12/03/2006 10:38:09 AM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Pro Evolution, Pro Stem Cell Research, Pro Science, Pro Free Thought, and Conservative)
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To: Howlin; Central Scrutiniser; Lurker
I upgraded to IE 7 yesterday (which I now hate) and when I looked at my Program thingy,

I really hate how IE-7 gets automatically put on the Windows Update. When I realized it wanted to install IE-7 on my workstation at work, I removed it from the update list. Internet Exploder isn't just a web browser, it affects the operating system too. I can't afford to have the main workstation down at the office.

188 posted on 12/03/2006 12:32:11 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Karl Rove isn't magnificent.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
I have not put IE7 on mine, it auto loaded on my father's pc and he is not happy.

I was watching football. My wife called from the other room, 'it wants to upgrade my Explorer, what should I do?'

I yelled 'click OK' and went back to watching the game.

Once it loaded, I didn't get to watch the rest of the game as I spent the next hour trying to explain to her how to use it. I'm still hearing about it every time she boots up.

Needless to say, it's not on my computer. When Mom's not happy, . . .

189 posted on 12/03/2006 4:42:14 PM PST by B-bone
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To: Central Scrutiniser
Thanks for the information. I'll check out the Open Office. I only got XP Office because through the school it was just as inexpensive as standard XP.

I guess I'll hold off on Flight Sim X until my next computer upgrade/rebuild. Happy flying.
190 posted on 12/03/2006 6:54:14 PM PST by Brucifer (JF'n Kerry- "That's not just a paper cut, it's a Purple Heart!")
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To: theFIRMbss
High-Performance Computing Going Mainstream, Microsoft Windows could be the environment for many huge computing problems,

Apple has had this for quite a while now. Using xGrid, you can submit your supercomputing jobs, and the system will run it however you've set it up. For example, it'll use your Mac cluster constantly, and whenever the screen saver on ANY of the desktops in your organization kicks in, xGrid will use them too. Using the Internet, it'll also harness the computing cycles of systems you may have in remote locations.

191 posted on 12/03/2006 6:57:14 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Jorge; Izzy Dunne
Try reading up on the new features and capabilities of Windows Vista and get back to us.

He wrote "innovative," not "new to Microsoft." Name a new feature of Vista that isn't already in OS X or other operating systems -- aside from the activation/DRM scheme, which benefits Microsoft and the copyright cartel, not consumers.

192 posted on 12/03/2006 6:59:29 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: tarheelswamprat
Vista limits you to two, and then you're forced to buy a new copy of the OS.

Two is the automatic max. You can probably get a reactivation for free if you beg Microsoft support enough. Of course, the concept of even having to do that is pretty bad.

193 posted on 12/03/2006 7:00:21 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: kenth
They've already discovered security breaches from 2004 that still work in Vista

A bunch of stuff in Vista is rewritten. OTOH, a bunch of stuff in Vista is also old code with wrappers (kind of how mail in .NET is just the old CDONTS with a .NET wrapper). This means many of the old bugs are still there.

194 posted on 12/03/2006 7:01:48 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: goldstategop; rlmorel
Leopard has one feature worth the upgrade: Time Machine. Like Windows System Restore

It is MUCH more than System Restore. It remembers everything: changes in files, overwriting of files, etc. What's amazing is the user interface that Apple uses to achieve this -- like using a time machine on your computer (hence the name).

195 posted on 12/03/2006 7:03:43 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Brucifer

I just ported out a signal from my video card to a 46 inch HDTV and ran flight sim, looked wonderful.

Only problem was that my flight yoke is attached to the desk which faces the opposite position of the TV.


196 posted on 12/03/2006 8:51:56 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Pro Evolution, Pro Stem Cell Research, Pro Science, Pro Free Thought, and Conservative)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
That just blows me away. I think you're establishing a whole new standard for us flight sim fans to aspire to. Hmmm, I think I need to juggle my finances and start plotting. I've never considered what a 46" HDTV could do for a flight sim.

I probably don't really need a new truck this year. LOL! Thanks.
197 posted on 12/03/2006 9:14:16 PM PST by Brucifer (JF'n Kerry- "That's not just a paper cut, it's a Purple Heart!")
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To: ReignOfError
Ya, but wait 'till some idiot doesn't use the correct jack points for your car and bends a suspension component. Or they strip the oil pan nut. Or some some zit faced kid decides to find out how good your car can handle after they get done.

Plus, they get their panties in a wad 'cause you "brought your own Mobil-1" that's no better than our house brand (that comes in a 55 gallon drum).

Not that I'm all against convenience, I use Plug-and-Play, but I do change my own oil!
198 posted on 12/03/2006 9:17:48 PM PST by Rate_Determining_Step (It's in the Koran! Submit or Die)
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To: Brucifer

Most of the new cards out there (mine is just a lowly Nvidia 7600GS) have an Svideo out that splits into a component out.

Makes for a hell of a monitor.

BTW, FSX has a great sailplane, and you get towed up and have to find thermals. I'm waiting for folks to come out with more freeware aircraft, I'm bored of the ones included, and most of the ones from FS9 don't convert too well.


199 posted on 12/03/2006 9:48:36 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Pro Evolution, Pro Stem Cell Research, Pro Science, Pro Free Thought, and Conservative)
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To: D-fendr
"TCO is important."

But buyers buy mostly on initial price and if upgrade components are readily available and cheap all the better. There are thousands of companies that have made PC parts and written software over the years... ergo prices are kept down.

Same with software. Thousands of programmers write software for PC's... meaning it is also cheaper and often free.

Apple and Apple owners can not say the same. A Mercedes may have a lower TCO than a Cadillac or high line Buick/Olds/Pontiac or a Ford or Mercury... but how many can afford the initial buy-in and expensive service intervals?
200 posted on 12/04/2006 2:25:05 AM PST by JSteff
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