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Lindsay Lohan attending AA meetings (Good luck and I sincerely mean that)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 12/1/06 | Erin Carlson - ap

Posted on 12/01/2006 5:06:05 PM PST by NormsRevenge

NEW YORK - Lindsay Lohan has been attending Alcoholics Anonymous meetings, her publicist said Friday. "She started attending some, and I think it's a positive thing," Leslie Sloane told The Associated Press. "My biggest fear is who's the big idiot to out which (chapter) she goes to."

She said Lohan, 20, made the decision on her own to attend meetings, although Sloane added: "And, by the way, she's not saying ... she'll stop drinking tomorrow."

"It's a place to go and feel safe," she said. "No one judges her, and it's going to be a slow process. But, to me, the fact that she's seeing that there's something not right makes her smarter than the next person."

In an interview Friday with E! Entertainment Television's Ryan Seacrest, Lohan's mother, Dina, echoed Sloane's comments. "That is true ... It's a positive thing," she said.

The New York Post first reported sightings of Lohan at an AA meeting earlier this week. The actress, who's currently filming "The Best Time of Our Lives," recurringly makes that paper's gossipy Page Six and other celebrity columns for her hard-partying ways.

Sloane said she thinks the press was unfair to Lohan by ridiculing a statement the actress wrote following last week's death of Robert Altman, who directed her in "A Prairie Home Companion."

A sad Lohan wrote the rambling letter "on the fly" on her Blackberry, Sloane said.

The letter, in which Lohan signs off with "BE ADEQUITE," has been criticized by a number of media observers for its grammatical errors and misspellings, among other things — including exploiting Altman's death for her own publicity purposes.

Patt Morrison, a columnist for the Los Angeles Times, derided it on The Huffington Post Web site as "alarmingly incoherent" and said Altman might find it "comedic."

"I want everyone to leave her the hell alone," Sloane said. "I'm so bored of this with her. No matter what she does, it's never good enough for everybody."

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Music/Entertainment; Society; TV/Movies
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To: kanawa

11. Our public relations policy is based on attraction rather than promotion; we need always maintain personal anonymity at the level of press, radio and films.

12. Anonymity is the spiritual foundation of all our traditions, ever reminding us to place principles before personalities.

-Reprinted with permission of A.A. World Services, Inc.

Sorry, but I don't see any "yes and no."

"...personal anonymity at the level of press, radio and films."

That states it clearly enough for me. And living in SoCal where so many actors live, I KNOW many of them follow this tradition. (I didn't say I know them; I know who several of them are from word of mouth).

In days of old, the press cooperated with AA in this regard. I happen to feel it still should, even if some naive newcomer isn't yet aware of the benefits of personal anonymity.

There isn't much value to public fame, for AA attendance or membership.

There is great value to the benefits of working the entire AA program, including following all traditions.


21 posted on 12/01/2006 11:04:57 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: kanawa
"....she was 'outed' by the New York Post."

I guess the NYP hasn't hit bottom yet.

yitbos

22 posted on 12/01/2006 11:22:31 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: truth_seeker
Sorry, but I don't see any "yes and no."

The comment that you referred to as wrong was...

"I don't think there's a rule in AA that a member can't disclose HIS or HER participation, just can't reveal identify of others in the group."

Yes, It has been agreed that one can reveal one's participation to a close friend, family member, doctor or clergy.

No, it has been agreed that one should not break anonymity in a "public" manner (ie. don't broadcast it) for self-aggrandizement or to present oneself as "leader" of AA

I'm paraphrasing from the AA book "Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions" (1953),
where there is a commentary on how the concept of anonymity came about and developed.

As well the original post is correct in that it has been ageed one should never reveal the identity of other members of the group.

23 posted on 12/02/2006 5:42:51 AM PST by kanawa (Don't go where you're looking, look where you're going.)
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To: Richard Kimball

"I hope she saved some money, has a good business manager, and that she gets sober"

and not necessarily in that order!

I wouldn't know the girl if she knocked at my front door ... don't know if she's a singer or actress ... it's just a celeb name. But from the posts on this thread, I assume she has some talent and at age 20 can rebuild a career after she cleans up her act. I really wish her and all others seeking help with addiction well.


24 posted on 12/02/2006 8:55:18 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA
She's more cute and sexy than talented. She starred in some Disney kid flicks like "Herbie Reloaded" and "The Parent Trap" remakes, and has or had a following with the tweenie crowd. The last few photos I've seen of her looked like she'd been living on the beach and had some serious skin damage, and she looked like most people do after a night of hard partying.

I would be amazed if she was a Diane Keaton type who continues to act into her fifties. She's popular because she's pretty, and that teenage youthful beauty doesn't last but a few years, even if you take care of yourself. I think she'll be more like Ally Sheedy or Molly Ringwald, who disappeared from the scene shortly after they left their teenage years.

25 posted on 12/02/2006 9:19:23 AM PST by Richard Kimball (I get no respect. I went to the proctologist and he put his finger in my mouth - Rodney Dangerfield)
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To: kanawa

"...press, radio and films. press, radio and films. press, radio and films."

Don't add words, or try to read between lines.

Lohan's publicist broke AA's tradition. Plain and simple.

That associates Lohan by name with AA, and that is what "anonymity" seeks to avoid.

Mistakes like this are taken in stride by AA, by not responding with yet more publicity and controversy.


26 posted on 12/02/2006 1:17:55 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker
Are you being purposely obtuse or am I incapable of expressing a simple point?

You claimed a poster's statement was categorically wrong.
All I did was point out, in what I hope was a polite and informative manner,
the distinction between public and private disclosure of anonymity.
I did it by condensing the chapters on the 11th and 12th traditions using AA's own book "Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions".
I certainly did not add words or try to read between the lines. I would not do that.
Do I have to type out the complete chapters for you to be satisfied?

As far as Lohan herself, her anonymity was broken by the New York Post.
Lohan's publicist was faced with queries about it.
We can argue if a "no comment", a false denial,
or a 'yes',and "I want everyone to leave her the hell alone" was the correct response
but that is a different question and one my response did not seek to address.

27 posted on 12/02/2006 2:21:00 PM PST by kanawa (Don't go where you're looking, look where you're going.)
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To: NormsRevenge

From what the publicist said, Lohan is going to AA meetings because "It's a place to go and feel safe," and not to stop drinking: "And, by the way, she's not saying ... she'll stop drinking tomorrow."

Apparently she doesn't want to stop drinking and, from recent news accounts, hasn't. The only requirement for AA membership is a desire to STOP drinking.


28 posted on 12/03/2006 7:25:36 PM PST by Abcdefg
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To: Abcdefg

She hasn't quite hit bottom yet, some take a long time to do so.

At least she knows where to go when and if she finally does.


29 posted on 12/03/2006 8:38:21 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Kyl / Cornyn in '08 .... Now is as good as any time for a GOPurge.)
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To: NormsRevenge

That's how it worked for me. First I was sentenced by my employer to a year in AA and I didn't follow any of the suggestions. Over the next three years it got a lot worse until I went back for my self and worked the program with a sponsor. That was five years ago. The best decision I ever made.
It doesn't matter what you think, it's what you do that makes a difference.


30 posted on 12/04/2006 1:56:01 PM PST by Abcdefg
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To: Abcdefg

It was 20 years between my first meeting and my second.
Twenty years of trying it "my way".
It's tempting to view them as wasted years
but I reckon I needed to go through the suffering
so that I could finally begin to realize my true position in the world.
Subordinating myself and letting my higher power guide me initiated a process
that each year sees new wonders appear in my life.
I never would have dreamed of the peace and happiness that awaited.
There is still much of "me", of self-seeking, to let go of
but at least now there is a sense of being on the right path.
Sobriety helps me to not only see the right direction to take
but is also crucial in enabling me to do the necessary work to get there.


31 posted on 12/04/2006 3:09:58 PM PST by kanawa (Don't go where you're looking, look where you're going.)
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