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To: Gene Eric

I, at least, have no problem with individual illegals and progeny of illegals I have met who come with the ideas of making a better life and of becoming Americans with American values. Of course those are not all of them, maybe not a majority. My problem is with the total lack of intent to close the border and not let them in in the first place. I do not fault the employers who hire them. I fault the government that does not arrest, jail, and fine those employers. A consistent and surely applied set of fines and jail terms would rapidly eliminate the reasons the illegals come here and those here would begin to self-deport. And giving them free government services is insane.


5 posted on 11/28/2006 8:12:51 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: arthurus
>> I, at least, have no problem with individual illegals and progeny of illegals

I do. They're participating in the collective, egregious abuse of the 'Official' U.S. Immigration policies. Nobody I know, however, has issue with the media prescribed motivation of bettering ones life or improving upon the welfare of ones family. A process of natural attrition may strike the best balance of interests; though, not an attractive alternative for those battling the edges of the issue.

>> I do not fault the employers who hire them.

I disagree with you here as well. In this case, the participating businesses provide the payrolls that enable the economic viability of illegal immigration as we know it. Perhaps the government is giving tacit approval for the employment of illegal immigrants through lack of prosecution, but then again, it's still illegal to hire illegal immigrants.

We fail too often to mention the economic support the general consumer provides through indifference. I agree with your other points. And yes, it's illegal insanity!
6 posted on 11/28/2006 9:57:36 PM PST by Gene Eric
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To: arthurus

"I do not fault the employers who hire them.

Yea, you know the money was just laying their on the counter. I looked around and didn't see anyone, so I took it.


9 posted on 11/29/2006 9:54:43 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: arthurus

The fault lies with the people who come, the people who employ them and the government. All share the fault, so to say that two of the three are ok with you makes zero sense.
susie


11 posted on 11/29/2006 5:06:56 PM PST by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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