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To: Mr. Mojo; Charles Henrickson
Murphy has...

More career home runs (398) than HoF outfielders Joe DiMaggio (361), Hank Greenburg (331) and Kirby Puckett (207)

More career RBIs (1266) than HoF outfielders Ralph Kiner (1019) and Hack Wilson (1063) and soon-to-be HoFer Tony Gwynn (1138)

29 posted on 11/27/2006 10:55:28 AM PST by TheBigB (Do you think "Lady in the Water" is in Ted Kennedy's NetFlix queue?)
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To: TheBigB; Mr. Mojo; Anitius Severinus Boethius

Somebody run the numbers on Dave Parker, Dale Murphy, and Andre Dawson. Three NL outfielders, overlapped--I think Parker came first, then Murphy, then Dawson--all three "plus" as defensive outfielders. My guess is that Murphy's total numbers aren't going to be any better than Parker's and probably not as good as Dawson's. If Murphy gets in, do Parker and Dawson? That, in turn, would lower the bar for others. Al Oliver, Tony Oliva, as veterans? Where do you draw the line?


32 posted on 11/27/2006 11:11:11 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Keep the standards high.)
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To: TheBigB
Murphy doesn't have better all around numbers than any of those HoF's you mentioned, nor are his numbers good enough even in one category to merit HoF consideration. To make the Hall as an outfield you better either have over 500 Hrs, over 3000 hits, over 1500 RBis, or a lifetime BA of well over .300. Murphy has none of the above.

Joe DiMaggio

Joe D had 1537 RBIs, a .325 lifetime BA, and more jewelry than Liberace.

Hank Greenburg

Greenberg was a .313 lifetime hitter and averaged 148 RBIs/162 games for his career. ....the highest average in MLB history.

Kirby Puckett

Puckett had a .318 lifetime BA and led his team to 2 WS titles.

Ralph Kiner

Kiner's HoF credentials are questionable, there's no doubt. Too short a career. ....but his numbers are still better than Murphy's.

Hack Wilson

Wilson was a .307 hitter with almost 1500 RBIs. ....and still has the single season RBI record, of course.

Tony Gwynn

3141 Hits, .338 BA. ......an automatic.

42 posted on 11/27/2006 12:09:39 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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