I think the silence from the Warren followers speaks volumes.
1 posted on
11/21/2006 5:49:45 AM PST by
TommyDale
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To: TommyDale
They hang out here they'll be along in a bit with their Purpose Driven dribble.
2 posted on
11/21/2006 5:52:57 AM PST by
Rightly Biased
(Courage is not the lack of fear it is acting in spite of it<><)
To: TommyDale
Just because a lot of people have purchased ONE book of his, does not mean they are "followers."
We have "the Purpose Driven Life." And we also have "The Jabez Prayer."
But we are not followers of that author either.
To: TommyDale
Not defending anyone here - just a sad data point. In the entire middle east of islamic countries - syria treats their christians better than any other islamic country.
5 posted on
11/21/2006 5:56:07 AM PST by
2banana
(My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
To: TommyDale
7 posted on
11/21/2006 5:57:27 AM PST by
100-Fold_Return
(I'll Never Be Broke Another Day in My Life!)
To: TommyDale
Have a cup of starbucks coffee..... get in a good community group and you'll be okay.... :)
9 posted on
11/21/2006 5:59:11 AM PST by
kjam22
(see my band here.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRCcdHCBTEs)
To: TommyDale
12 posted on
11/21/2006 6:06:23 AM PST by
PGalt
To: TommyDale
I figure they consider the source, the attitudes . . . the diatribes . . . the fierce biases involved . . .
and realize they have better things to do in terms of being about The Lord's business otherwise and elsewhere.
13 posted on
11/21/2006 6:08:30 AM PST by
Quix
(LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
To: TommyDale
Doesn't journalism school teach paragraphs anymore? Gee, this guys writing rivals my kids when they were in grade school, not only in grammar and mechanics but in content.
He's trying to bait people and it's pretty obvious. The old *If you don't say anything it means you agree* tactic, which anyone with more intelligence that the author has (and that doesn't appear to be a very difficult accomplishment) wouldn't fall for.
15 posted on
11/21/2006 6:13:52 AM PST by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: TommyDale
My wife bought the book and we read it together while driving to work. She reads, I drive. Having read it together, I found it to be inspirational and an unusual book in that I believe one can read it FOUR times easily with a different angle each time.
Once to consider your purpose as an individual.
Once to consider your purpose within your marriage.
Once to consider your purpose within your family.
Once to consider your purpose within the church/nation/world.
End of Advice and Begin of Commentary
Now, since we have read it once, I should mention that I have not done anything sinful or even wrong. Its amazing. I read a book, and I am now perfect.
Rick Warren, having written the book, must have been perfect much longer than me.
This is one thing about being a Christian, we are perfect.
It is hard to imagine why anyone would criticize a Christian or call them a hypocrite...after all, we are perfect aren't we?
Its not possible for Joseph Farah to understand why a perfect person like Warren would make a mistake...but then Farah must not have fully read and understood the book..or perhaps, its because he is Jewish?
But wait, Jesus was Jewish and HE understood.
End Sarcasm
18 posted on
11/21/2006 6:17:24 AM PST by
Paloma_55
(I may be a hateful bigot, but I still love you)
To: TommyDale
I bought the books; I put them in with the wet garbage not long ago. I don't know how many people are going to come out and defend a preacher whose costume of choice is a Hawaiian shirt and who paraphrases the Bible in his books. I am not talking about someone paraphrasing while talking because he cannot remember the exact words off the top of his head - he paraphrases in print in order to fit the Bible in with his current thinking.
20 posted on
11/21/2006 6:18:55 AM PST by
twonie
(Just because there are fewer of us don't mean we are wrong.)
To: TommyDale
Is the strategy now to ignore Farah?Works for me.
To: TommyDale
I just got this....
ANTI-SYRIAN CHRISTIAN LEADER PIERRE GEMAYEL HAS BEEN ASSASSINATED IN LEBANON
**Watch FOX News Channel or go to http://foxnews.com for more
33 posted on
11/21/2006 6:39:26 AM PST by
tutstar
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To: TommyDale
34 posted on
11/21/2006 6:41:34 AM PST by
tutstar
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36 posted on
11/21/2006 6:42:00 AM PST by
tutstar
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To: TommyDale
It does. But the events of the last several days has made it difficult to defend. He praised people who terrorize Christians. The video was yanked when word got out. A gay rights, pro abortion (including partial birth abortion) activist senator will be speaking at his church as well as his involvement in CFR all at once may be too much to defend. But his true colors are coming out. Hopefully more will see it.
38 posted on
11/21/2006 6:43:26 AM PST by
Sue Perkick
(The true gospel is a call to self-denial. It is not a call to self-fulfillment..John MacArthur)
To: TommyDale
PDL was a pretty good book. Sound basic Christianity. Rick Warren is not perfect, of course, and has said some stupid things lately.
So let's tar and feather him and "demand an apology".
Or just grow up.
51 posted on
11/21/2006 7:06:45 AM PST by
Taliesan
To: TommyDale
Warren's lemmings, I mean, followers, are not allowed to criticize the Dear Leader, I mean, pastor. They would be breaking Item 1 of the Saddleback membership covenant, which is a requirement for joining his cult, I mean, church.
http://www.baptistpress.com/bpfeature.asp?ID=676%20
74 posted on
11/21/2006 8:17:10 AM PST by
Cecily
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To: TommyDale
How sad that we have not yet "learned Christ."
To: TommyDale
I had a long discussion with my pastor last night. We are a Nazarene church and we are using a lot of the PDL material, for small groups and missions outreach. I tend to be very critical and always do my homework, so I did a lot of reading about Rick Warren and the Saddleback Church. As it turns out, my pastor and I agree 100% on this issue.
Rick Warren is a lousy preacher. I don't like his delivery or the message. The hermeneutics in his books are just plain horrible. Politically, he may be off the reservation. But, my pastor and I agree that Rick is gifted as a teacher of organization and providing an outline, or method, for growing a church and getting more people committed to service in their church.
If I don't look for, accept or expect anything more from Warren and PDL, then I am fine with it and so is my pastor.
95 posted on
11/21/2006 8:42:44 AM PST by
True-Stu
To: TommyDale
We each have a special purpose? I can't wait to find mine!

118 posted on
11/21/2006 11:01:37 AM PST by
Silly
(Still being... Silly)
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