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I think the silence from the Warren followers speaks volumes.
1 posted on 11/21/2006 5:49:45 AM PST by TommyDale
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To: TommyDale

They hang out here they'll be along in a bit with their Purpose Driven dribble.


2 posted on 11/21/2006 5:52:57 AM PST by Rightly Biased (Courage is not the lack of fear it is acting in spite of it<><)
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To: TommyDale

Just because a lot of people have purchased ONE book of his, does not mean they are "followers."

We have "the Purpose Driven Life." And we also have "The Jabez Prayer."

But we are not followers of that author either.


4 posted on 11/21/2006 5:55:59 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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Not defending anyone here - just a sad data point. In the entire middle east of islamic countries - syria treats their christians better than any other islamic country.
5 posted on 11/21/2006 5:56:07 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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btt


7 posted on 11/21/2006 5:57:27 AM PST by 100-Fold_Return (I'll Never Be Broke Another Day in My Life!)
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To: TommyDale

Have a cup of starbucks coffee..... get in a good community group and you'll be okay.... :)


9 posted on 11/21/2006 5:59:11 AM PST by kjam22 (see my band here.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRCcdHCBTEs)
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To: TommyDale

Interesting.


12 posted on 11/21/2006 6:06:23 AM PST by PGalt
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To: TommyDale

I figure they consider the source, the attitudes . . . the diatribes . . . the fierce biases involved . . .

and realize they have better things to do in terms of being about The Lord's business otherwise and elsewhere.


13 posted on 11/21/2006 6:08:30 AM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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Doesn't journalism school teach paragraphs anymore? Gee, this guys writing rivals my kids when they were in grade school, not only in grammar and mechanics but in content.

He's trying to bait people and it's pretty obvious. The old *If you don't say anything it means you agree* tactic, which anyone with more intelligence that the author has (and that doesn't appear to be a very difficult accomplishment) wouldn't fall for.


15 posted on 11/21/2006 6:13:52 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: TommyDale

My wife bought the book and we read it together while driving to work. She reads, I drive. Having read it together, I found it to be inspirational and an unusual book in that I believe one can read it FOUR times easily with a different angle each time.

Once to consider your purpose as an individual.
Once to consider your purpose within your marriage.
Once to consider your purpose within your family.
Once to consider your purpose within the church/nation/world.


End of Advice and Begin of Commentary


Now, since we have read it once, I should mention that I have not done anything sinful or even wrong. Its amazing. I read a book, and I am now perfect.

Rick Warren, having written the book, must have been perfect much longer than me.

This is one thing about being a Christian, we are perfect.

It is hard to imagine why anyone would criticize a Christian or call them a hypocrite...after all, we are perfect aren't we?

Its not possible for Joseph Farah to understand why a perfect person like Warren would make a mistake...but then Farah must not have fully read and understood the book..or perhaps, its because he is Jewish?

But wait, Jesus was Jewish and HE understood.


End Sarcasm


18 posted on 11/21/2006 6:17:24 AM PST by Paloma_55 (I may be a hateful bigot, but I still love you)
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I bought the books; I put them in with the wet garbage not long ago. I don't know how many people are going to come out and defend a preacher whose costume of choice is a Hawaiian shirt and who paraphrases the Bible in his books. I am not talking about someone paraphrasing while talking because he cannot remember the exact words off the top of his head - he paraphrases in print in order to fit the Bible in with his current thinking.


20 posted on 11/21/2006 6:18:55 AM PST by twonie (Just because there are fewer of us don't mean we are wrong.)
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Is the strategy now to ignore Farah?

Works for me.

31 posted on 11/21/2006 6:36:38 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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I just got this....

ANTI-SYRIAN CHRISTIAN LEADER PIERRE GEMAYEL HAS BEEN ASSASSINATED IN LEBANON

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33 posted on 11/21/2006 6:39:26 AM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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bump!!


34 posted on 11/21/2006 6:41:34 AM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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ping...


36 posted on 11/21/2006 6:42:00 AM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: TommyDale

It does. But the events of the last several days has made it difficult to defend. He praised people who terrorize Christians. The video was yanked when word got out. A gay rights, pro abortion (including partial birth abortion) activist senator will be speaking at his church as well as his involvement in CFR all at once may be too much to defend. But his true colors are coming out. Hopefully more will see it.


38 posted on 11/21/2006 6:43:26 AM PST by Sue Perkick (The true gospel is a call to self-denial. It is not a call to self-fulfillment..John MacArthur)
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PDL was a pretty good book. Sound basic Christianity. Rick Warren is not perfect, of course, and has said some stupid things lately.

So let's tar and feather him and "demand an apology".

Or just grow up.

51 posted on 11/21/2006 7:06:45 AM PST by Taliesan
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Warren's lemmings, I mean, followers, are not allowed to criticize the Dear Leader, I mean, pastor. They would be breaking Item 1 of the Saddleback membership covenant, which is a requirement for joining his cult, I mean, church.


http://www.baptistpress.com/bpfeature.asp?ID=676%20


74 posted on 11/21/2006 8:17:10 AM PST by Cecily (`)
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How sad that we have not yet "learned Christ."


80 posted on 11/21/2006 8:24:50 AM PST by James Ewell Brown Stuart (If you want to have a good time, jine the cavalry!)
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I had a long discussion with my pastor last night. We are a Nazarene church and we are using a lot of the PDL material, for small groups and missions outreach. I tend to be very critical and always do my homework, so I did a lot of reading about Rick Warren and the Saddleback Church. As it turns out, my pastor and I agree 100% on this issue.

Rick Warren is a lousy preacher. I don't like his delivery or the message. The hermeneutics in his books are just plain horrible. Politically, he may be off the reservation. But, my pastor and I agree that Rick is gifted as a teacher of organization and providing an outline, or method, for growing a church and getting more people committed to service in their church.

If I don't look for, accept or expect anything more from Warren and PDL, then I am fine with it and so is my pastor.

95 posted on 11/21/2006 8:42:44 AM PST by True-Stu
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We each have a special purpose? I can't wait to find mine!


118 posted on 11/21/2006 11:01:37 AM PST by Silly (Still being... Silly)
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