[spacecowboynj]

Yeah, but Lincoln was the one who promised no "invasion" in his fist inaugural address and then sent battleships into the South, so in effect Lincoln kickstarted the shooting.

Here are the words of a brave senator we all need to remember even if history at large has forgotten him. Representative Clement L. Vallandigham of Ohio had this to say on the floor of the House of Representatives on July 10, 1861:

"[One of the] last and worst acts of a Congress...which it ought not to have done...was the passage of an obscure, ill-considered, ill-digested, and unstatesmanlike high protective tariff act, commonly known as the Morrill Tariff.

Juast about the same time, too, the Confederate Cognress...adopted our old tariff of 1857...fixing their rate of duties at five, fifteen, and twenty percent lower than ours. The result was...trade and commerce...begand to look to the South.

The city of New York, the great commercial emporium of the Union, and the North-west, the chief granary of the Union, began to clamor now, louidly, for a repeal of the pernicious and ruinous tariff. Threatened thus with the loss of both political power and wealth, or the repeal of the tariff, and, at last, of both, New England and Pennsylvania...demanded, now, coercion and civil war, with all its horros as the price of preserving either from destruction...The subjegation of the South, and the closing up of her ports-first, by force, in war, and afterward, by tariff laws, in peace, was deliberately resolved upon by the East."

These call-it-like-is (READ: this is a war of brother against brother over taxation) words from a first-rate class act NORTHERN senator caused Lincoln to have this gentleman arrested without warrant, imprisoned without being charged, and deported.

Let's remember Vallandigham as an American hero for a moment.

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

Let's remember Vallandigham as an American hero for a moment.

I remember Vallandigham as a Copperhead defeatist traitor, whose call to make peace with the south helped Lincoln defeat McClellan (who named him as his intended Secretary of War) in the 1864 presidental election and got him trounced in his race for governor of Ohio in the same year (more proof that your alleged vociferous northern opposition to the war is another falsehood).

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

Oh, let's also remember Vallandigham as the idiot who accidentally killed himself , shooting himself in the head in a courtroom while trying to prove that the victim of a murder had actually committed suicide.

[Ditto]

Let's remember Vallandigham as an American hero for a moment.

LOL. He was a man neither the North or South wanted. He ended up going to Canada. And he was about as much of a patriot as Cindy Shehan(sp?)is today.

Let me ask you this. Say tomorrow, Castro were able to cut off our sea lanes into GTMO and told the Marines there the to pack up and get the hell off Cuban soil. The base commander sends a message that they are running out of food and water.

You're the Commander in Chief. What do you do about it?

[justshutupandtakeit]

Lincoln had every right to send US forces ANYWHERE he wished.

As for as the traitorous fool you laud I loved it when Lincoln packed his sorry ass off to the Confederacy.

Just a typical RAT creep lying through his teeth. Naturally you would fall for it.