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To: Non-Sequitur
This is the best evidence, from Julia Grant herself. Can't parse this at all...

Julia Grant in her memoirs reports that her family slaves remained her property until they were freed by the 13th amendment. She also reported that she was very upset when her favorite slave ran away in 1864, apparently the slave did not realize that the Emancipation Proclamation did not apply to her.

This little disagreement started when you said that Mary Custis' slaves belonged to Robert E. Lee because the wife's property belong to the husband. Catch-22. If you are going to say this, then it applies to Grant. Julia says they were hers. By your own post..they were his.

Wow the whole Stonewall thing is a huge smokescreen that has nothing to do with the fact that I agreed with you that Stonewall Jackson had slaves.

So I guess they didn't work long enough or hard enough, huh?

Yeah, they probably hadn't paid their debt back yet.

You seem to dismiss a lot of things you choose not to accept.

What did I dismiss? That I wasn't shocked by the use of the word chattel.

Maybe they didn't, I have no idea.

Thank you. Now, that wasn't so hard was it.

375 posted on 11/22/2006 11:54:46 AM PST by James Ewell Brown Stuart (If you want to have a good time, jine the cavalry!)
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To: James Ewell Brown Stuart
Julia Grant in her memoirs reports that her family slaves remained her property until they were freed by the 13th amendment. She also reported that she was very upset when her favorite slave ran away in 1864, apparently the slave did not realize that the Emancipation Proclamation did not apply to her.

And as I pointed out in an earlier thread, Julia Grant did not write her memoirs, they were ghost written. They were not published until, I believe, 1975 when Mrs. Grant had been dead for over 70 years. And since Missouri ended slavery in January 1865 the Grant's did not live anywhere that slavery was legal as late as December 1865. How do you explain all that?

376 posted on 11/22/2006 11:58:49 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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