[Bubba Ho-Tep]

The 13th Amendment came years after the Emancipation Proclamation< p>>Less than two years, actually, and within weeks of the Republican victory in the 1864 election, which ended Democratic opposition to it.

I mean really now, if this was about ending slavery, why tolerate slavery in four northern states?

Because they didn't rebel. If the south hadn't rebelled, they could have kept their slaves, too.

And spare me Missouri "ending slavery on it's own."

So you're arguing that Missouri didn't end slavery on its own before the 13th amendment was passed?

Mind you, not one of their congressional delegates signed anything to end slavery until the end of the Civil War.

What do congressional delegates have to do with ending slavery within a state? Maryland enacted a new state constitution in November, 1864 which ended slavery there.

[spacecowboynj]

Here's the seed of the Civil War right here:

The Three-Fifths Compromise was a compromise between Southern and Northern states reached during the 1787 United States Constitutional Convention in which only three-fifths of the population of slaves would be counted for enumeration purposes regarding both the distribution of taxes and the apportionment of the members of the United States House of Representatives.

Slaves are counted in terms of determining who gets seats in Congress???? Holy Cow! Guess where most of the slaves were? OMG! Guess what the Civil War was? It was redistricting at the most extreme level, nothing more.

I know you guys want to believe that Lincoln and the Republican and northern industrialists who put them into power were, you know, working for Amnesty International, but sadly that was not the case.