Shame of the Yankees - America's Worst Anti-Jewish Action [Civil War thread]

Jewish Press ^ | 11-21-06 | Lewis Regenstein

[Non-Sequitur]

Buchanan chose not to challenge the Confederacy.

But he made it clear that he believed their actions to be illegal.

And whether or not Lincoln thought the actions illegal isn't the point, so much as the Confederacy wanted peace, and to be left ALONE.

Then they had an odd way of showing it when they bombarded Sumter.

[Ditto]

Lets quit beating around the bush. Davis chose war for one reason -- he had to. The Upper South states had rejected secession and the so-called Confederacy of the Cotton States had no chance of viability unless they got the more populus and wealthy southern states, especially Virginia, to join them and the only way to accomplish that was to start a war before people realized how rediculus that little combination of plantations called the Confederate states were.

They had to accomplish that before passions cooled and people realized that the Slave Power couldn't even deliver the mail let alone be a true republic.

[stand watie]

what UTTER NONSENSE!

you and your cohorts, that are the clueLESS & brainwashed remainder of the "DAMNyankee coven of lunatics, fools, bigots, nitwits & at least ONE outright racist", just don't/can't accept that your "clay-footed, secular saint: abe, the UNjust" was fighting for raw power, $$$$$$$$ & his EGO-mania. (the TYRANT would have happily killed EVERYBODY in the country,for more POLITICAL POWER & his EGO!)

our dixie ancestors wanted PRECISELY the same thing that their grandfathers of 1776 wanted: FREEDOM & LIBERTY. despite what you've been "snowed with", the war was ONLY about FREEDOM for DIXIE (if you were a southerner) and about "preserving the union of the UNWILLING" (if you were a yank).

a century & a half of SELF-righteous LIES & DAMNyankee apologist NONSENSE do NOT change those simple FACTS!

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

actually, the election of the TYRANT made secession of the upper south (and perhaps the war) inevitable.

the TRUTH is that even before he was sworn in as a minority president, lincoln was seen to be exactly what he was: a party hack, a crooked railroad lawyer & a power-hungry lunatic, who desired war with the new dixie republic, rather than to let the south ALONE and the USA remain at PEACE.

the UNvarnished TRUTH is that that it was lincoln's war & the blame for a MILLION DEAD is upon his head.

free dixie,sw

[Ditto]

actually, the election of the TYRANT made secession of the upper south (and perhaps the war) inevitable.

Ignoring facts as usual. All eight of the Upper South and the Border States rejected secession the first time around even when the Cotton states begged them. Once Davis started his war, the passions drove four of them them to do something totally stupid for which they paid a far higher price than the Cotton despots of the deep south who started the whole mess.

[Non-Sequitur]

actually, the election of the TYRANT made secession of the upper south (and perhaps the war) inevitable

Yeah there is nothing the South hated worse than the Constitutional process at work.

[spacecowboynj]

Brothers (and sisters if you're here). This is what the Civil War wrought on the individuals in this nation a century and a half ago:

Casualties in the Civil War

At least 618,000 Americans died in the Civil War, and some experts say the toll reached 700,000. The number that is most often quoted is 620,000. At any rate, these casualties exceed the nation's loss in all its other wars, from the Revolution through Vietnam. The Union armies had from 2,500,000 to 2,750,000 men. Their losses, by the best estimates:

Battle deaths: 110,070

Disease, etc.: 250,152

Total 360,222

The Confederate strength, known less accurately because of missing records, was from 750,000 to 1,250,000. Its estimated losses:

Battle deaths: 94,000

Disease, etc.: 164,000

Total 258,000

The leading authority on casualties of the war, Thomas L. Livermore, admitting the handicap of poor records in some cases, studied 48 of the war's battles and concluded:

Of every 1,000 Federals in battle, 112 were wounded.

Of every 1,000 Confederates, 150 were hit.

Mortality was greater among Confederate wounded, because of inferior medical service. The great battles, in terms of their toll in dead, wounded, and missing is listed on this site:

http://www.civilwarhome.com/Battles.htm

I've bitched, pissed, wailed and moaned about the cost of that war. Is anyone even remotely with me on that?

[stand watie]

actually the number DEAD, as a direct/indirect result of the NEEDLESS & IMMORAL war against the FREEDOM of the new dixie republic, was about ONE MILLION. 700 thousand of those were as a direct result of the war. the rest were NON-combatants, who succumbed to an early death, as a result of other war-related causes.

the fault for that great hecatomb in America is that of lincoln, the TYRANT.

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

btw, one wonders how many MILLION countrymen wee willie klintoon AND some of the members of FR's "DAMNyankee coven" would have killed to prevent the south's secession, had it been in @2000 instead of the 1860s???

ONE of the "DY coven" members said not long ago on another thread,when i asked him how many MILLION Americans he would WILLINGLY KILL to keep the south subservient & in the union, if he was POTUS. his answer was ALL of us! i suspect but do not know that lincolbn's answer would have been exactly the SAME!

lincoln & klintoon are twins, separated by a century & a half. NEITHER had the morals of an alley-cat. BOTH would do/say ANYTHING for their own POWER & for the LUST for $$$$$. ANYTHING!

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

btw, one wonders how many MILLION countrymen wee willie klintoon AND some of the members of FR's "DAMNyankee coven" would have killed to prevent the south's secession, had it been in @2000 instead of the 1860s???

ONE of the "DY coven" members said not long ago on another thread,when i asked him how many MILLION Americans he would WILLINGLY KILL to keep the south subservient & in the union, if he was POTUS. his answer was ALL of us! i suspect but do not know that lincoln's answer would have been exactly the SAME!

lincoln & klintoon are twins, separated by a century & a half. NEITHER had the morals of an alley-cat. BOTH would do/say ANYTHING for their own POWER & for the LUST for $$$$$. ANYTHING!

free dixie,sw

[spacecowboynj]

the south would've never seceded in the first place were it not under great pressure to do so. and i don't mean slavery. this was so beyond that. men like Jefferson Davis, Lee, Jackson et al did not do this because they were some slave-mongering "masters" - this had to do with money. Same as most every other war.

[TexConfederate1861]

I really doubt it. And remember, Lincoln could have cared less about the slaves, so that is not even an issue in this discussion.

[TexConfederate1861]

Yes, but I imagine that the Confederate Government would have given them a clear answer, rather than playing games with them as the Lincoln Cabinet did.

[TexConfederate1861]

Since a Warship with soldiers was being sent to re-supply and
reinforce a fort in the middle of a busy port, what other choice would they have. None.

[TexConfederate1861]

That is a doubtful hypothesis. The other states would have joined regardless.

[TexConfederate1861]

By the way, the Confederate Postmaster, Texan, John H. Reagan, performed his job well, and got a viable postal service up and running in a short period of time.

[Non-Sequitur]

Yes, but I imagine that the Confederate Government would have given them a clear answer, rather than playing games with them as the Lincoln Cabinet did.

Of course you would imagine that, you would imagine anything that would put the confederacy in a positive light. The fact of the matter is that there was no serious offer to negotiate anything, there was no desire for a peaceful solution of anything except complete and total acceptance of the validity of the southern rebellion.

[Non-Sequitur]

Since a Warship with soldiers was being sent to re-supply and reinforce a fort in the middle of a busy port, what other choice would they have. None.

The ships were there to resupply only, and would not have landed troops or munitions unless the resupply was opposed. As Lincoln made clear in his message to Governor Pickens.

[Non-Sequitur]

By the way, the Confederate Postmaster, Texan, John H. Reagan, performed his job well, and got a viable postal service up and running in a short period of time.

Not a difficult job when the territory you were responsible for shrank by the day. And the rates were considerably higher, too.

[Non-Sequitur]

I've bitched, pissed, wailed and moaned about the cost of that war. Is anyone even remotely with me on that?

Had the south won it's rebellion would you still be bitching and pissing and whailing and moaning?