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Shame of the Yankees - America's Worst Anti-Jewish Action [Civil War thread]
Jewish Press ^ | 11-21-06 | Lewis Regenstein

Posted on 11/21/2006 5:23:06 AM PST by SJackson

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To: stand watie

So keep demonstrating your inability to learn I don't care. You are completely wrong as to the meaning of the term "revisionism" when it applies to the American Civil War. I showed you what it means and that it has nothing to do with Leftism. In fact, it came about through the writings of pro-Southern historians whom I doubt were Leftist either.

But fact and Truth mean nothing to you and do not cause a pause in your hysterical ravings.


641 posted on 11/28/2006 8:46:33 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
do you DENY that the DAMNyankees tortured/raped/assaulted/murdered THOUSANDS of INNOCENT, UNarmed civilians and CSA Prisoners of War, torched & looted churches, synagogues,hospitals, "crops in the field",private homes,schools, libraries & other NON-military "targets" in violation of the well-established LAWS of WAR??????

the records indicate that such ATROCITIES were COMMONPLACE! ALL of those acts are called WAR CRIMES & CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.

free dixie,sw

642 posted on 11/28/2006 8:48:06 AM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
MORE utter HOGWASH & SELF-righteous BILGE.

laughing AT you sanctimonious IGNORANCE of BOTH history & historiography.

free dixie,sw

643 posted on 11/28/2006 8:51:10 AM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
yet MORE DAMNyankee bilge!

don't you get tired of being laughed AT???

free dixie,sw

644 posted on 11/28/2006 8:53:16 AM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
actually you are 100% WRONG about revisionism, as you are about almost everything else.

laughing AT you.

free dixie,sw

645 posted on 11/28/2006 8:54:55 AM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie

Babble on no one cares what you say.


646 posted on 11/28/2006 8:59:33 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
don't you ever get tired of being "the butt of jokes" & "a convenient target for ridicule"???

don't you CARE that you are thought by most here to be a HATER & a FOOL of the first class???

free dixie,sw

647 posted on 11/28/2006 9:06:23 AM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie

Why don't you tell us all just WHAT Revisionism is and WHO are its advocates, you big phony.


648 posted on 11/28/2006 9:08:14 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
why don't you LEAVE FR & go sup with people, who won't laugh AT you over on DU??? the NONSENSE & sanctimonious BILGE that you post is fit only for RIDICULE.

the EX-FReepers of the "DAMNyankee coven" are ON DU spewing the same south-HATING, SELF-righteous, ignorant bilge that you're posting here. go join them.

btw, there are NO former "good 'ole rebs" from FR over there, so you'll NOT be ridiculed as a FOOL.(that should tell you something about WHO is a TRUE patriot & who is a HATER.)

free dixie,sw

649 posted on 11/28/2006 9:14:07 AM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie

So you are admitting you DON'T KNOW what Revisionism is I see.

"there are NO former "good 'ole rebs" from FR over there,"
I never thought you were 150+ years old you don't look a day over 100.


650 posted on 11/28/2006 9:16:40 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
i'm admitting NOTHING of the sort. i'm simply ignoring your STUPID demand.

the ONLY thing i'm "admitting" is that you are WELL-known by ALL here on FR as a FOOL,a LUNATIC,a south-HATER & a "DUNCE, 1st Class".

head over to DU & visit with "your buddies" out of the EX-"DY coven".you'll be WELCOMED "with open arms" by the OTHER leftist, fools, bigots & south-HATERS.

laughing AT you!

free dixie,sw

651 posted on 11/28/2006 9:25:59 AM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: TexConfederate1861
No...an ultimatum is when you threaten WAR. They didn't do that.

Webster's defines 'negotiate' as "arrange for or bring about through conference, discussion, and compromise." So if it wasn't an ultimatum then it sure wasn't a negotiation. There was no room for compromise, and nothing to discuss except recognition of confederate sovereignty and acknowledging their actions to be legal. So since there was no compromise possible and nothing to discuss except Lincoln's surrender to southern demands, I think that 'ultimatum' is an accurate description.

652 posted on 11/28/2006 9:33:07 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: stand watie
do you DENY that the DAMNyankees tortured/raped/assaulted/murdered THOUSANDS of INNOCENT, UNarmed civilians and CSA Prisoners of War, torched & looted churches, synagogues,hospitals, "crops in the field",private homes,schools, libraries & other NON-military "targets" in violation of the well-established LAWS of WAR??????

Yep.

the records indicate that such ATROCITIES were COMMONPLACE! ALL of those acts are called WAR CRIMES & CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.

Nope.

653 posted on 11/28/2006 9:34:08 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
in that case, you either think everyone here is STUPID and/or you're "in denial" about the DOCUMENTED facts.

the FACTS are that the HORRORS suffered by MY family were COMMON PLACE.

to quote Dr Susan Brownmiller, the union army "raged through the prostrate south, raping, robbing, looting & killing the defenseless, with gleeful abandon". in another place, she stated that, "the poorer you were and the DARKER your skin, the more likely you were to be SAVAGED, as it was "well known" to the union troops that NO OUTRAGE would be punished, unless it was against " the quality", landed, people.

as Dr Brownmiller is neither a southerner or "PRO dixie" in her outlook, you might think on that.

free dixie,sw

654 posted on 11/28/2006 9:47:09 AM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie

Susan Brownmiller is a feminist NUT. Thus it figures you would like her and give her credibility.


655 posted on 11/28/2006 9:52:53 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: stand watie
to quote Dr Susan Brownmiller, the union army "raged through the prostrate south, raping, robbing, looting & killing the defenseless, with gleeful abandon". in another place, she stated that, "the poorer you were and the DARKER your skin, the more likely you were to be SAVAGED, as it was "well known" to the union troops that NO OUTRAGE would be punished, unless it was against " the quality", landed, people.

What book? What page? You're quoting at length there, so you must have the source at hand.

as Dr Brownmiller is neither a southerner or "PRO dixie" in her outlook, you might think on that.

Nor is she a historian. She is a radical feminist polemicist whose primary agenda is to demonstrate that men control women through rape. It's not surprising that she'd take whatever lurid folk tales about marauding yankees she could find and toss them into her anti-male diatribe without bothering to check on their veracity.

656 posted on 11/28/2006 10:11:55 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: justshutupandtakeit
You missed just about every pertinent point in this debate, foremost of which is that the NORTH supported slavery. Four Northern states were slave states. Additionally, virtually all the states supported returning escaped slaves to their owners (I think Lincoln even stood up for this but I'll have to check). Secondly, the North attacked the South at Ft. Sumpter and "jumpstarted" the war (even by Lincoln's own admission!). As for your desire to lock up any editors today, no matter how liberal or nutty, I most certainly oppose you on that. You and Lincoln would probably have gotten along just fine though:

With Congress not in session until July, Lincoln assumed all powers not delegated in the Constitution, including the power to suspend habeas corpus. In 1861, Lincoln had already suspended civil law in territories where resistance to the North's military power would be dangerous. In 1862, when copperhead democrats began criticizing Lincoln's violation of the Constitution, Lincoln suspended habeas corpus throughout the nation and had many copperhead democrats arrested under military authority because he felt that the State Courts in the north west would not convict war protesters such as the copperheads. He proclaimed that all persons who discouraged enlistments or engaged in disloyal practices would come under Martial Law.

Among the 13,000 people arrested under martial law was a Maryland Secessionist, John Merryman. Immediately, Hon. Roger B. Taney, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States issued a writ of habeas corpus commanding the military to bring Merryman before him. The military refused to follow the writ. Justice Taney, in Ex parte MERRYMAN, then ruled the suspension of habeas corpus unconstitutional because the writ could not be suspended without an Act of Congress. President Lincoln and the military ignored Justice Taney's ruling.

http://www.civil-liberties.com/pages/did_lincoln.htm

657 posted on 11/28/2006 11:30:47 AM PST by spacecowboynj
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To: spacecowboynj

Presumably you can show us all where I claimed the Union fought over slavery? It is NOT at all what I have said EVER. So this means your snide nonsense is irrelevant at best.

And NO Northern states did not return slaves without federal coercion under the Fugitive Slave Act which was the Law of the Land. In FACT, there were riots caused by the capture and removal of slaves back to their masters. Where do you come up with this crap? It only shows complete ignorance of history.

"Secondly, the North attacked the South at Ft. Sumpter and "jumpstarted" the war (even by Lincoln's own admission!)." So Edmund Ruffin was a Yankee agent?

Lincoln acted as needed and I would indeed have "gotten along fine..." with him.


658 posted on 11/28/2006 11:55:17 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: spacecowboynj
Four Northern states were slave states.

Really? Which slave states were "Northern?"

659 posted on 11/28/2006 11:56:46 AM PST by Ditto
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To: spacecowboynj
Secondly, the North attacked the South at Ft. Sumpter

Really? And here I'd always read that it was the Yankees inside the fort and the south starting the shooting at them.

660 posted on 11/28/2006 12:09:27 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep
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