[Hildy]

Wait a second...Santorum was the incumbent. So don't give me that. With Allen barely holding on you can see that there is NO WAY IN HELL a conservative will win a Presidential election. Guiliani in 2008.

[Williams]

Don't give you what? PA loved Casey's father and they don't view the Casey family as liberal. That is why Santorum always faced an uphill battle. We won the presidency without Pennsylvania.

I like Giuliani a lot, but all those very liberal NYC positions are a problem. A big one.

[LibertarianInExile]

"With Allen barely holding on you can see that there is NO WAY IN HELL a conservative will win a Presidential election. Guiliani in 2008."

Santorum burnt bridges and the Casey name made a difference in PA, as did the fact that Rendell had to run and brought out the local weasels this time to vote him back to the trough.

But that's not VA. There, let's be fair--Allen dug himself a hole this year. Allen was Mr. Misstep this election. So 'don't give me that' back atcha.