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To: dogbyte12

I hold no animosity towards Haggard, and believe that a man is innocent until proven guilty. However, listening to the lengthy channel 9 interview, red flags went up. I was disappointed that Haggard did not display the righteous indignation that one would expect after just learning about such an outrageous accusation.

Also, he seemed to be evasive in the sense of going on and on about not believing in discrimination against anyone, that the church would conduct an investigation, that he felt compassion for the accusor, etc. I did not see displayed the utter shock and disbelief that he could be accused of such a thing.

I took careful notice of his demeanor, and he evaded eye contact at critical moments when he was asked about a sexual relationship. He also carefully framed and repeated his response: "I did not have a relationship..." Could this be shades of Clinton's "I did not have sex..." in that Haggard was actually saying "We were not in a gay romantic relationship (but I did pay for sex)..." I truly hope not.

Again, I would be happy to be mistaken but the man's body language, eye contact (or lack of it), and ramblings about everything instead of portraying the utter indignation that should have consumed him make me suspicious.

One other significant thing is the fact that he suddenly resigned the NAE presidency. Would an innocent man react so abruptly and put up such a tepid defense to such charges? My gut feeling is that either Haggard is a timid and unassuming person who is unable to mount a spirited defense of himself (Christian humility is not the issue here), or the reason he was unable to strongly respond was that the accusations were true. Time will tell.


120 posted on 11/02/2006 6:10:07 PM PST by tjd1454
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To: tjd1454
...or the reason he was unable to strongly respond was that the accusations were true.

Jon Carry responded strongly and we all know the accusation was true.
123 posted on 11/02/2006 6:31:22 PM PST by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: tjd1454

Not to sound like a homer, but I just watched the interview. He looks into the interviewer's eyes the whole times. He never dodged any questions. He said flat out, he has been faithful to his wife, not a Monica answer.

Why did he answer with out fire? Because that is the world's way.

Romans 8:31 - 37


124 posted on 11/02/2006 6:44:48 PM PST by fatez (Euthanasia - GenX's retirement plan for the boomers)
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To: tjd1454
Also, he seemed to be evasive in the sense of going on and on about not believing in discrimination against anyone, that the church would conduct an investigation, that he felt compassion for the accusor, etc. I did not see displayed the utter shock and disbelief that he could be accused of such a thing.

Are you familiar with Haggard's mannerisms? I'm not. I have a stereotype of all megachurch pastors being somewhat plastic and noncommittal when asked for specifics.

Also, Haggard was recently accused of anti-Catholicism, so he might be especially delicate in his response.

175 posted on 11/02/2006 11:37:52 PM PST by Dumb_Ox (http://kevinjjones.blogspot.com)
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To: tjd1454
Again, I would be happy to be mistaken but the man's body language, eye contact (or lack of it), and ramblings about everything instead of portraying the utter indignation that should have consumed him make me suspicious.

After watching the video I agree with all of your comments. Something ain't right with this guy and the situation. Also wonder what the issue is with his motorcycle or "scooter." Part of the allegation?

221 posted on 11/03/2006 7:02:31 AM PST by vox_freedom (Matthew 5:37 But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no)
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