Epidural Nation: 'Guys' created the problem.

Me ^ | 28 Oct 2006 | GoBucks

[gobucks]

It is no wonder so many women want epidurals: if I were a typical woman, trapped on all sides by guys, I'd surrender to the interventions with eagerness myself.

[wideawake]

While the pain is muted, yes, the joy is muted far more.

What an unadulterated, hippydippy load of quatsch.

[NonValueAdded]

nonsense.

[wideawake]

Thank you.

[gobucks]

Ah, you have experienced fully natural childbirth, yes?

[ahayes]

But hear me: for a man to back down from the reality of the childbirth he initated is folly.

I guess you adhere to the "this will hurt me more than it hurts you" philosophy? Such stoicism you demonstrate by denying pain relief for your wife!

[ahayes]

Ah, you have experienced fully natural childbirth, yes?

Let's point something out: You haven't.

[ahayes]

"The kind of Men who fear the pain of helping their wives through the pain of childbirth are the kind of American Guys the hijackers evaluated as they planned their way to 9-11."

Quoted for utter psychoticism.

[gobucks]

The issue can be construed that I promote denying 'pain relief'.

Wrong: I promote courage formation in the hearts of men - by them standing by their wives and helping them give birth naturally. It is not that I accuse women of wanting to avoid pain: that makes sense. It is how guys surrender their duty to pills and needles and let their wives bring their children into this world largely by themselves.

That is the nonsense I refer to....

[rightsmart]

My wife and I have had four children. The first and fourth were emergency situations requiring C-sections. For the second (natural) my wife demanded and received an epidural. The third child was born (naturally) in an emergency situation where there was no time for the epidural. She is still angry with her OB-GYN for not allowing her the epidural.

[wallcrawlr]

dude...put down the pipe and slowly back away

[gobucks]

I did, I was there, and it was something we experienced together.

As it was DESIGNED to be experienced in my view.

[Millee]

While the pain is muted, yes, the joy is muted far more

Bwahahahahaha!!! I praise the doctor who took away my "joy".

[ahayes]

You don't think it's possible we might combine the two and have supportive men plus painkillers?

Perhaps we could hammer out a compromise in which women obtain pain relief and the men demonstrate how tough they are by having red-hot needles rammed under their nails while their wife gives birth?

[ahayes]

Your nociceptors really weren't firing as much as your wife's. You did not experience it.

[gobucks]

LOL, of course, I recognize the winds blow hard in a contrary direction ... but, hey, someone has to stand and point out the obvious.

[wallcrawlr]

oh...i'm sure someone will show up and point it out to you

[motormouth]

The day a man can squirt a watermelon out through his penis...I will be more than happy to listen to his opinion on epidurals.
No offense. :o)

MM

[Chanticleer]

I did without an epidural for medical reasons. I wish I could have done without pitocin, but it was required for all four of my babies. I do think more women could have unmedicated births, but that's a personal and a medical decision that is going to differ from woman to woman. No woman should feel guilty or inadequate because some birth plan didn't work for them. A healthy baby should be the goal -- not the use or nonuse of pain meds. My hubby was present at all four births. I squeezed his hand so tightly, he still hasn't regained full feeling in his hands. :-)

[wideawake]

Ah, you have experienced fully natural childbirth, yes?

My wife has had two epidurals and I was in the room assisting both of those deliveries.

I don't care a flying fig for your crunchy granola "natural" childbirth.

I am saying that if you think my wife or I felt any less joy for the birth of our little ones because she had epidurals, then you are a stupid assclown.