Posted on 10/25/2006 7:54:41 AM PDT by BILL_C
I wonder if he believes BJ Clinton did not inhale - or have sex with that woman.?
We also have Roy Kellerman saying that he only heard three shots total:
Mr. SPECTER. Mr. Kellerman, you said earlier that there were at least two additional shots. Is there any area in your mind or possibility, as you recollect that situation, that there could have been more than two shots, or are you able to say with any certainty?
Mr. KELLERMAN. I am going to say that I have, from the firecracker report and the two other shots that I know, those were three shots. But, Mr. Specter, if President Kennedy had from all reports four wounds, Governor Connally three, there have got to be more than three shots, gentlemen.
Senator COOPER. What is that answer? What did he say?
Mr. SPECTER. Will you repeat that, Mr. Kellerman?
Mr. KELLERMAN. President Kennedy had four wounds, two in the head and shoulder and the neck. Governor Connally, from our reports, had three. There have got to be more than three shots.
Representative FORD. Is that why you have described--
Mr. KELLERMAN. The flurry.
Representative FORD. The noise as a flurry?
Mr. KELLERMAN. That is right, sir.
Mr. SPECTER. Excuse me, do you have any independent recollection, Mr. Kellerman, of the number of shots, aside from the inference that you make as to how many points of wounds there were?
Mr. KELLERMAN. Could you rephrase that, please?
Mr. SPECTER. Yes. You have drawn a conclusion, in effect, by saying that there were four wounds for the President and three wounds for the Governor; and from that, you say there must have been more than three shots in your opinion or your view. But my question is: Do you have any current recollection of having heard more than three shots?
Mr. KELLERMAN. No. I don't. I will have to say "No."
Senator COOPER. Has that been your recollection from the very time of the shooting?
Mr. KELLERMAN. No, sir; it has been my opinion.
Senator COOPER. Not your opinion, but from the time of the shooting you think then that you heard only three shots, or did you--
Mr. KELLERMAN. Yes.
Senator COOPER. Or did you ever think that you heard more than three?
Mr. KELLERMAN. No, sir; I can't say that, sir.
Can you say with certainty that suppressors were not used?
Don't you think that is a distinct possibility? If I was a shooter I would certainly use one.
What evidence do you have that silencers were NOT used?
BILL_C claims that the sounds of the additional gunshots were captured on police recordings. If he is correct, then the recordings of the gunshot sounds are evidence that silencers were NOT used.
This is on my list of questions for GOD when I get there ... who shot who.
We also have Roy Kellerman saying that he only heard three shots total:
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From memeory (as I don't have time to look that up now), we also have Roy Kellerman say that there were 3-5 seconds between the first shot he heard and the last two shots that he described as BANG-BANG. This is excellent agreement with the Dallas Police Radio audio as the accoustic analysis by Dr. Thomas shows slightly less than 5 seconds between shots 3 and 4.
So, Roy Kellerman did NOT hear shots 1 and 2, but he did hear shots 3, 4 and 5. Remember, shots 1, 2 and 3 were the first group fired before the limo reached the Stemmons Freeway sign (as seen on the Zapruder film). The total time between shots 1 and 3 was 2.6 seconds, three fairly closely spaced shots.
The only thing really necessary for Connally to have been shot in the back at Z=325 is for a bullet to have been fired at that time and Kellerman heard the BANG-BANG, the shot at Z=313 to JFK's head and the shot at Z=325 to Connally's back.
If the only shots Kellerman heard that day was the bang-bang for shots 4 and 5, his testimony would still be valuable to support this argument.
I'm not sure any of the witnesses correctly described the five shots spacing that the accoustic analysis of the Dallas Police recording provides, but there are plenty of witnesses who insist there were more than 3 shots, as there were some witnesses who only heard two.
Kellerman correctly described the last two shots fired as BANG-BANG, the first hitting JFK in the head at Z=313 and the second fired from the TSBD which missed JFK's head and hit Connally in the back at Z=325.
Who are you, and what are you trying to cover up?
There are always many points of view available on any thread here, and when I see someone trying to appeal to a mod to silence someone else, my tyranny sensors go on alert. Disagreement is great; that's how we get to the truth here, but attempts like yours usually come from the source of the problem. You're obviously too young to have any personal angle here, so who owns you?
If you do find any witnesses that correctly describe your hypothesized five shot spacing based on the accoustic analysis of the Dallas Police recordings, please post their testimony to this thread.
While waiting, anyone who is interested in learning more about the "accoustic analysis of the Dallas Police recording[s]" may find The acoustic evidence in the Kennedy assassination enlightening.
I believe Mr. and Mrs. Connelly knew exactly what happened that day unlike crackpots who sell a bunch of cheap books and DVD's like carnival barkers.
I also know what bullets can do and they don't penetrate two inches of flesh and then disappear.
I asked this guy exactly what happened that day and he still can't answer the question. He simply has no idea. He's making up as he goes along.
If you don't believe this, ask him to list the shooters and their precise positions. You won't get a straight answer.
Check the guy's history. The only reason he came to FR is to post this nonsense.
This thread is like asking if a plane hit the Pentagon.
You've got to be kidding.
What kind of logic is that?
Do you know what a silencer is?
A silencer would most likely NOT be recorded. So the fact that it was not recorded does not prove that they were not used.
While I accept your expertise with firearms, there are far too many discrepancies about the Kennedy assassination to convince me that Oswald was the lone shooter.
shooter .25 you're back.
In post 383 you accused me of saying that the government and Lady Bird Johnson were responsible for the assassination.
NOW I want you to either back that up or apologize for making things up.
Funny thing that you accuse anyone of making things up.
You are obviously projecting. That's why no amount of real logic and reasoning has any impact on your closed mind.
You may accept shooters "expertise" in firearms I most certainly do not. I would want to have some proof of everything he comes up with. He makes things up.
Real simple. Look at the Governor's interview. He said three shots. The shots were less than 100 yards away. The first shot missed. The second shot was a 161 grain bullet traveling 2000 feet a second, fully capable of going through two people. The third shot was a small hole in and a large hole out. All three recovered bullets were forward of the victims. No one and I repeat no one has ever created a different scenario that corresponds to the actual photos or films of this shooting incident.
Real simple.
shooter answer
You accused me of saying that the government and Lady Bird Johnson killed Kennedy.
BACK IT UP.
YOU CAN'T BECAUSE YOU MAKE THINGS UP.
YOU ARE JUST DISPLAYING YOUR OWN IGNORANCE.
shooter .25
Both Connallys said John Connally was hit after Kennedy was hit the first time. That makes FOUR shots.
One misses
second hits Kennedy
third hits Connally
fourth hits Kennedy
Once again you are either making things up or ignoring vital facts.
Can't believe anything you say.
The curb that within hours of the assassination was repaired.
Shooter, its you that are here to spread nonsense. No sensible person accepts any part of the Warren Commission cover-up. Connoly would have no special ability to sort this out, and its always been advantageous for him to "go along to get along" just as it has been for Gerald Ford. They know how far they would have gotten if they had spoken out for the truth. The fact that you say that you like to shoot has no special relevance in this matter either. You're either a deluded fool, or a paid deceiver. Either way you're not worth listening to.
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