Explaining the Shooting of Governor John Connally

Today, I think it can be shown beyond any doubt that LBJ did order the killing.

See my #97. You don't put your beloved wife's life in danger.

I don't believe that there is anything "magic" about it at all.

REPLY:

There's a couple of problems with the premise that a bullet fired into JFK then hit Connally at the time they say it did.

As I point out, the bullet hitting 4 inches below the collar of JFK and then exiting his neck going DOWN at 25 degrees is hard to grasp, but the documentary I mentioned "Beyond the Magic Bullet" shows it's possible :-)

So I don't argue what Dr. Wecht and others do, that the magic bullet did magical things. I instead show what happened when Connally was shot.

That arguement is consisent with many observations as I point out in the table that I showed, the Warren Commission's analysis is NOT consistent.

Hey, I ain't that old!

The story mentioned by my Senator during the 1978 investigation, as I remember it, was that Kennedy hired the Mafia to hit Castro since the Mafia had access to Havana. The first assassination attempt was unsuccessful. During the second attempt, the Cubans caught two hit men in the act atop a building. The hit men spilled the plan. Castro then "turned" the men and hired the Mafia to hit Kennedy in retaliation. True or not, it explains why the assassination records have not all been released to the public.

The hole in their argument is that Connally was indeed wounded earlier by a bullet fragment which entered Governor Connally’s leg. And note the importance of the fact to this investigation that it was a bullet fragment, not an intact bullet. That Connally was hit by a bullet fragment to his left leg is well documented but many of today’s documentaries incorrectly describe that the left leg wound was caused by an intact bullet which then fell out of his leg later at the hospital.

Three bullet fragments were found under Nellie Connally’s seat (CE840), who sat directly to the left of Governor Connally. It’s therefore credible that the bullet fragment that John Connally’s left leg is from the CE840 shot.

The fragments and the reasons for analyzing them

Kennedy assassination links for all to consider (in no particular order):

The Single Bullet Theory
Base of CE399
Kennedy Assassination Home Page
Lee Harvey Oswald's Paper Bag
Guinn’s neutron-activation Analysis
Warren Report: Table of Contents
One Hundred Errors of Fact and Judgment in Oliver Stone's JFK
The Academic JFK Assassination Web Site
HSCA (House Select Committee on Assassinations) Final Assassinations Report
A Critique of The Warren Report
Attempted assassination of General Walker
Oswald interviews, Acoustic studies and other information relating to the assassination of JFK
Queen of Diamonds
Zapruder 313
Head Wound
Photos and Illustrations of the JFK Assassination
Zapruder Head Shot
A Conspiracy Too Big? Intellectual Dishonesty in the JFK Assassination
The Single Bullet Strikes John Connally
Changed Motorcade Route in Dallas?
Zapruder frames 312-314 animated
Frame by Frame breakdown of the Zapruder Film
The Zapruder Film is Authentic
New Orleans, and the Garrison Investigation
Close up of crack in limo windshield
The Bullet Fragments In Governor Connally: Were There Too Many To Have Come From CE 399?
Body Snatchers at Love Field?
The Case for a Bunched Jacket
The Case of the Bunched Jacket (Not the same as the link above)
X-ray Wound Comparison
Zapruder Film in its entirety
Dallas Motorcycle Police Eyewitness Accounts

Free Republic threads on the Kennedy Assassination:

Did Castro Kill Kennedy?
Tape of Kennedy's Killing Is Getting Digital Analysis
Spy claims Israel assassinated JFK
Ex-Presidents, Johnson Widow Call for JFK Film Probe
Running down a footnote to assassination
The man who solved the Kennedy assassination
Case Closed: a letter to Gerald Posner (re: Kennedy assassination)
Warren (Commission) Was Right - The JFK case should be closed
Kennedy assassination solved!
Peter Jennings "JFK" Report: Oswald acted alone, go back to sleep...
Some Relevant Facts About the JFK Assassination
Who Killed JFK?
New Evidence in Kennedy Killing (Dallas not Mass)
Nellie Connally Disputes Warren Commission
JFK's fatal head wound: The truth for those who want to know (very graphic)
The Mystery of Marina Oswald
LBJ was behind JFK's assassination, upcoming book contends (I recommend this thread as having the most and best variety of information.)
Thirty-nine years after JFK's assassination...
***New study of JFK assassination backs theory of "grassy knoll" Thread 2***
New study of JFK assassination backs....... Thread 3
New study of JFK assassination backs....... Thread 4
New study of JFK assassination ---- Thread 5
New study of JFK assassination ---- Thread 6
Echo correlation analysis and acoustic evidence in the Kennedy assassination

Let me know of any others not on the list.

Thank you for this very informative thread.

I have read several books about the Kennedy assassination and am convinced that it was a conspiracy and that there was more than one shooter.

Best Evidence was the book which finally convinced me. The premise of the book is that the "best evidence" in a murder investigation is the body. The author (David S Lifton) attempts to follow the chain of custody of the President's body. The results are astounding - particularly the events during the autopsy.

Admit that you've never owned or fired one.

You're more logical than most.

No way were Connolly and Johnson involved and here's why:

Well actually Johnson had arranged for Yarborough, a left winger, to be riding in the car that day but Kennedy hearing about the rift between LBJ and Sen. Yarborough said, he can ride with LBJ or he can walk.

So JFK screwed up the perfect scenario, getting BOTH JFK and Yarborough eliminated.

And Connally then changed parties to be a Republican. Connally later said in a private conversation that he had his opinion about what really happened but IF I remember correctly he said he loved his country and would not talk about it.

Had about 5 of those buggers. Gave them all away. Friends tried to give them to me, wouldn't take them.

The price tag said it all. They sold from 9.99 to 14.95 tops. And Sears did carry them, I have catalog #25 somewhere in the pile that features them.

Junk. Plain and simple.

6.5 round nosed round, even in civilian, was a punk round.

Oswald was NOT the rifleman everyone claims. He barely made sharpshooter the two times he qualified.

He never practiced much with the rifle.

He was there, he had the rifle, he was part of it, he DID NOT do the damage. Another shooter(s) did.

Sigh, this debate will outlive the both of us.

And then there's all the mystery of the disappearing JFK brain and a possible substitute brain for later photo ops. Who's brain was placed in the Archives and who/why/when was it, along with the slides, "lost"?

BTW, the scope he used made it difficult to cycle the action without moving the head and losing sight picture. That was proven.

Oswald was a lefty. Even more difficult.

NO WAY could he get of 3 accurate shots in the time alotted.

I didn't believe it when it happened, I believe it even less today.

I still can't stand that pristine bullet. What a crock.

Why would you have FIVE Carcanos if you didn't like em. Didn't you wise up after the first two or three?

I know rifles and the Carcano is a good rifle. You keep going to price but in those days one could also buy a Mauser for umteen dollars. I remember when a Cain Sloan Department store in Nashville had a GERMAN Mauser K-98 in great condition for $32.

The 6.5 is a capable killer of medium game. The 6.5 x 55mm was a favorite of Swedes for hunting Moose, among other big game. The Italian round is a little shorter (less case capacity, same bullet) but the round is still more powerful than our current military round, the .223

The main factors in accuracy are a good barrel and sights. I believe that Oswald had put a scope on it.

It doesn't seem impossible that Oswald used a military surplus rifle, shooting a mid-sized deer round (and a bullet known for penetration due to its high sectional density) a hundred yards at a slow moving target and hit, and killed, Kennedy.

I have in my personal gun collection several cheap military surplus rifles that shoot very well. These include the Mosin-Nagant Russian Rifle, which is crude and even older than Oswalds gun. It still shoots very small groups (with iron sights) at 100 yards.

And then there's all the mystery of the disappearing JFK brain and a possible substitute brain for later photo ops. Who's brain was placed in the Archives and who/why/when was it, along with the slides, "lost"?

As anyone knows, if you have enough evidence, after a while even something as mysterious as this starts to become obvious. Remember, in writing this, I stayed with what I think are facts. Things like a disappearing brain , faked autopsy photographs can be argued like the magic bullet theories and no one will have their minds changed.

BUT if you look at how Connally was wounded, then use today's technology and the information that has just become available through the Records Review Act .....,, then it becomes obvious.

I have my opinions on HOW these things disappeared and why, but there are no facts to support them that I know of......

LOL,

I kept thinking that somewhere in that barrel I could find a good one. Gave up after 5.

K98 sold for about 20 to 30 depending on condition. You could get a real good one for 40. The m1 garand and carbines started at about 40 and went up.

Hey, don't let me bust on your favorite piece! Folks think I'm a nut because I like swedish mausers in 6.5, and nagants in .54R.

It just proves that in this life, there is truly an ass for ever seat!

Ping to post #46

WHO ORDERED THIS

My guess is LBJ.

"Well, maybe the memo didn't go out to "all hands"."

I'm sure it didn't. But I was referring to all the supposed groups, organizations and individuals in those cities who were in on the planning or at least had second-hand knowledge of the plot and mentioned in the multitude of theories over the years.

Someday someone's going to start hawking Official JFK Scorecards. Won't be able to tell the players (actors) without one. ;>

To Great grandma: Yes.

Re: Files. Agrees with the Giancana book, "Double Cross," written by a 'family' member which alludes to the mob's involvement.

Who were the other three. Scoop Jackson was a anti-Commie dem back then. Was he one?