Posted on 10/23/2006 6:59:40 AM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL
False premise, as you have not established any "cheating."
Public silence, yes, and to his players, yes. Today, though, I think LaRussa will be talking to some baseball officials privately. Either way, though, Rogers is on public notice, so to speak. He would be very foolish to risk using pine tar the next time he pitches.
Cordially,
Oh, and by the way, you're presuming that Rogers was actually cheating. Dirty hands are not "outlawed" in baseball. Same with dirty uniforms and caps (think Louis Tiant, the pear-shaped pig pen).
While you've righteously convinced yourself that there was cheating (even making the ridiculous claim that LaRussa's "style" is not to complain about what you loudly proclaim to be patent, obvious, blatant, shocking, self-evident, unprecedented, and appalling foul play), you don't know what was on Rogers' hands.
Get a grip.
I doubt he has been silent with the players. And I doubt he'll make any "private" inquiries about it. Like I said, he's been around the block a few times. And he most likely knows a good deal about the past hundred years or so of baseball and pitching.
The substance was on his pitching hand, not his catching hand.
So why does it matter if he wore his glove?
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rofl, because he could have moved the tar to his glove. Take a look back to the 88 world series. Pitcher was removed and suspended for tar in his GLOVE.
Oh, and by the way, you're presuming that Rogers was actually cheating.
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And so does ESPN, and 99% of all sports reports that are covering this story. His excuses aren't adding up, prior games video. Might want to read some recent reporting on this.
Kenny Rogers, the same roid rage clown that slams reporters is a cheat. His performance in every game of the playoffs will be marred as a cheat, with pics of magic dirt to show it.
I would love to see a game 6, only to see him show up to a game this post season with clean hands. ROFL
Ok, just to summarize.
He has dirt on his hand. The umpires see the dirt, both managers know about the dirt. The dirt looks like dirt, it isn't blobby or otherwise looking like it could come off on the ball or his fingers.
Further,there's no sign of the dirt ON the ball, or the fingers.
Then he cleans off the dirt after the 1st inning.
And this is proof that he was cheating, because after the 1st inning he could have hid this dirty substance somewhere that NOBODY would see it. After putting it right out for the world to see in the 1st inning.
And after the game, he draws attention to his glove by wearing it into the clubhouse (as if taking it off would have someone allowed someone to learn that there was a substance in it).
But this can't possibly be a pitcher trying to psych out his opponents -- it's PROOF of cheating, first because we could SEE the dirt, and then even more convincing that the dirt dissappeared and it MUST HAVE BEEN hidden somewhere that nobody could see, and used in a way that kept the umpires from finding any evidence.
Which proves he was cheating, because he hid it so well.
And the opposing manager is just too nice to mention it or complain or to have taken any measures to stop it.
If you played, you were a mighty gullible player.
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Yeah, I'm the gullible one (rolling eyes).
Uh, it was a clump of dirt!
Then why did you wash it off?
Uh, I didn't notice it until after the inning!
Dirt in the same spot in every game you pitched in the playoffs?
Uh, it was dirt!
All the baseballs are rubbed up before the game with special mud.
Cordially,
Or dirty hands. Either one would work. As noted by Petronski in post 120, your tirades have conclusively demonstrated the desired effect.
Kenny Rogers, the same roid rage clown that slams reporters is a cheat. His performance in every game of the playoffs will be marred as a cheat, with pics of magic dirt to show it.
And now you're just getting weird.
As a hatter.
I just read what the umps said. No, the umps didn't see it. No the umps didn't touch it. The UMPS seen his hand AFTER he washed.
Yes, the Cards seen substance on the ball hit in the dugout. That brought it to their attention BEFORE the TV caught it.
This same "dirt" is on his hand in every game he pitched and didn't know it?
Yeah, that's why he continued to wear his glove. He is just a super phyc kinda guy. Even AFTER the game, he keeps it going, it's gatta help. He keeps changing his story just to confuse the world. No, there is no way he was cheating. He's not concerned this will stick to him better than the clump of dirt.
He will, now, always be remembers for the "Cheating" pitcher with pictures attached from all the games he pitched this post season.
roflmao
Rule 8.02 states that a pitcher "shall not" even deliver a ball that he defaces with spit or a foreign substance or by rubbing the ball on his glove, person or clothing.
The penalty for both violations is ejection.
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| Screen captures from FOX's telecast of Sunday's Game 2 of the World Series show before and after images of Tiger pitcher Kenny Rogers' left hand. (FOX Sports) |
You are exactly right except your points support my contention rather than undermining it.
It is the umps responsibility to call the managers for a sidebar in that situation and say 'here's what happened now forget it and play ball.'
What they did CLEARLY put LaRussa in a difficult situation to either whine and get his players thinking about the wrong thing or look impotent.
I'm not a baseball guy, couldn't really care less. But this type of thing happens all the time in hockey and football and the refs go to the opposing coaches and explain the situation.
The importance of protocol in ensuring fair play is something even an attorney should be able to comprehend.
Next game the Cards players should lightly glue lots of little bits of cork on the outside of their bats and when questioned explain they are cookie crumbs.
Along with Phil Niekro, Whitey Ford, Don Sutton, Mike Scott, etc., etc., etc. All remembered in shame.
Yikes. Well, I guess I'll just have to humble myself before your driven purity, and recognize baseball for the moral swamp it is. And apparently has been. Since about 1880.
Along with Phil Niekro, Whitey Ford, Don Sutton, Mike Scott, etc., etc., etc. All remembered in shame.
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Even I, an avid Cards fan adds Mark to that list. He was doing juice, no doubt about it. Sad part is, now he will pay thru his health.
I think the stuff was in in his glove and rubbed off onto his hand.
In the first inning photo, there seems to be some "dirt" on the ball too.
In the second inning photo, you can still see where the "dirt" was.
That's some sticky dirt.
Disclaimer: I am a Cards fan, and I think the dirt had no play in the outcome of the game.
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