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To: Pyro7480
Before 1930, people who believed in Christianity, regardless of denomination, thought contraception is inherently sinful.

That didn't stop them from using it. Regardless of what individual churches said, people followed their own consciences, especially in the US, and spaced their children. Trying to make it seem like all non-Catholic forms of Christianity believed 100% what Catholics did before 1930 is a historical distortion.

The point here is *choice* in family spacing - not choice in abortion, that's not what I'm talking about. But since everyone's so exercised about the Muslim birth rate, look at what various Muslim societies have done over the globe and over the years (not all Muslims - I will admit that):

- made it so that girls are married off after their first period (sometimes as young as 9 or 10.)
-actually deliberately fattening young girls so they get their periods sooner (and thus can get married sooner.)
- married young girls off as multiple wives
- keeping girls and women terrorized and brutalized by female genital mutilation
- made it a death penalty offense for women to use birth control without their husband's permission (Iran after the revolution, through the late 1980s.)
- restricted women's education and freedom, from forbidding women to drive, forbidding education, forbidding women to travel outside the country on their own, etc.

All of these things have resulted in very high Muslim fertility rates. There is nothing wrong with the Euro and Western population hovering around replacement. We don't have to crank out babies - what we need to do is make it so that Muslim women enjoy the freedoms that Christian women do (and many Christians do use non-abortion-causing birth control.)

391 posted on 10/10/2006 1:23:26 PM PDT by valkyrieanne
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To: valkyrieanne
Trying to make it seem like all non-Catholic forms of Christianity believed 100% what Catholics did before 1930 is a historical distortion.

LOL! The distortion is the above line. I never said that Catholics and Protestants believed the same thing on every issue. However, they did agree on contraception.

There is nothing wrong with the Euro and Western population hovering around replacement.

That's the problem. The Euro population ISN'T hovering replacement. It's much below that.

394 posted on 10/10/2006 1:26:18 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Give me an army saying the Rosary and I will conquer the world." - Pope Blessed Pius IX)
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