[wideawake]

Sorry, but you don't get to have it both ways.

No one's talking about two ways.

One can have a fulfilled Western life and have a nuclear family with a minimum of three children, guaranteeing the maintenance of that way of life for the next generation.

It's not an either/or proposition.

You imply that there is no middle ground between irresponsible license and government-mandated breeding programs.

But there is a middle ground: self-respecting people with self-control, choosing to to say yes to the future.

[steve-b]

You're projecting again. It was your own argument that was based on the fallacy of the excluded middle; I simply brought it to its reductio ad absurdum.

[steve-b]

One can have a fulfilled Western life and have a nuclear family with a minimum of three children

That may be, or it may not. It depends entirely on the individual.