[wideawake]

And here is where Salimah lives:

Correct.

Inconvenient for her, however her grandkids will live in nice houses they conquered from people who never had grandkids.

FReeper Alouette is not wealthy, but she has a very large family and did not live in Salimah conditions.

The priest who officiated at our wedding is the 17th of 18 children.

His parents were dairy farmers in upstate New York of modest means.

All 18 are successful people, more than 10 have college educations, three have advanced degrees.

Their parents never lived in squalor and now live quite comfortably since they have 18 loving children and more than 100 grandchildren to look after them.

[steve-b]

And yet another gaping hole opens in your argument. How is it, pray tell, that those people aren't doing any better after generation after generation of breeding like flies? Why didn't their children and grandchildren do any better by them, hmmmm?

[TightyRighty]

Well bully for them! Have you ever been to a city like Oakland where welfare babies are the norm? Have you seen the complete dessimation of a city where the budget goes to feeding these families? They can't take care of their cities because they are to busy putting food in the mouths of children whose parents can't afford them and yet continue to have them. Oakland looks like a third world country.

I on the other hand have two kids I can afford. My husband works a full time job, I work a couple of days a week so that I can stay at home and raise my children. My children are homeschooled and will thankfully never grace the halls of a government school (unlike Salimah's children). I could have more kids but then I'd have to get a real job, put my kids in daycare, a public school and let the state raise them.

Now, I ask you which is better? Six kids who will become indoctrinated by the state, six kids who will be raised by others and by themselves, six kids that will most likely take a different path that their father and I wouldn't want because they had two parents that didn't have time for them? Or two children who had a mother that stayed at home and raised them herself (along with Dad's help of course!). Two children that will know right from wrong because Mom and Dad were there to teach them and two children that will vote Republican :)