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To: wideawake; AppyPappy

From a religious point of view, it's pointless to argue - you have your dogma and I have mine. We will never coinvince one another. Plus, for me personally, it's a moot point, since

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...the Good Lord saw fit to give me a gun armed only with blanks

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Consequently, I have sex only for pleasure. Is that a sin? If it isn't, why can't others have (married) sex for pleasure as well? Doesn't Solomon's Song of Songs give the impression that such an idea was part of His plan?


OK, enough theology (like I said, we'll never agree)

Now, demographics: AppyPappy said it well - it's not quantity, it's quality. In fact, quantity without quality is extremely counterproductive (Africa? China?) Steyn is only partially right. Europe is failing not only because of low birthrates and high immigration rates - but because the Europeans left are snarky pessimists with no freedom. America is great because it is creative, innovative, full of energy. This comes from freedom . As Steyn once said: "America is an optimistic country because that's where the optimists went".

When we become secular, snarky pessimists like the Europeans, we will cease to be a great country, no matter how many people live here.


144 posted on 10/10/2006 10:43:31 AM PDT by Warren_Piece (Smart is easy. Good is hard.)
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To: Warren_Piece
Consequently, I have sex only for pleasure

Oh, well then, thanks to people like you, we are all gonna die.

Oh, and people like me, too, who had only the number of children I could, do to health reasons.

Oh, and people who only give birth to the number of children they can afford to take care of.

Oh, and people who believe that we are not rabbits who should give birth to as many children as we can regardless of the ability to take care of them individually.

Oh, and.........

159 posted on 10/10/2006 10:49:44 AM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: Warren_Piece
I agree 100% with your demographics point.

As for the gun with blanks, sorry to hear that, it is just God's way of letting you know that your the best version of that type of model he could make, anymore would be sub-par.
182 posted on 10/10/2006 10:59:31 AM PDT by A Texan (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: Warren_Piece

More precisely, Europe is in trouble because of welfare statism. Without that, people who won't bother to become educated simply can't afford to crank out kids.


192 posted on 10/10/2006 11:05:44 AM PDT by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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