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Mexico mega-port plan key to 'NAFTA superhighways'
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | October 7, 2006

Posted on 10/07/2006 3:56:30 AM PDT by Man50D

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To: 1rudeboy

If I understand your chart correctly, these items are components of some other food.

As a matter of fact, many places making tortillas are called "tortilla factories" and they are much like donut shops with the conveyor belts.

The chart is confusing if a tortilla is the same as an orange or apple.


181 posted on 10/10/2006 8:39:15 AM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: Smartass

Joseph Farrah is a bona fide patriot, and nobody's fool.


182 posted on 10/10/2006 9:28:48 AM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: B4Ranch
A recent Merrill Lynch economic report said that as much as half of the nation's economic growth is related to housing sales, construction and spending from home equity loans.

What does that even mean? Half of GDP or half the increase in GDP? Over what period?

183 posted on 10/10/2006 9:38:38 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Goldbugs, immune to logic and allergic to facts.)
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To: Paul Ross
Joseph Farrah is a bona fide patriot, and nobody's fool.

At least he knows what an auction is.

184 posted on 10/10/2006 9:41:31 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Goldbugs, immune to logic and allergic to facts.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Unlike you.


185 posted on 10/10/2006 9:50:27 AM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: Paul Ross
I think an auction is a sale of property to the highest bidder. You think it's when the Federal Reserve sets the price ahead of time.
186 posted on 10/10/2006 9:56:54 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Goldbugs, immune to logic and allergic to facts.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Just a guess but I would say that half of the GDP, probably over the past decade.

Remember what was said and then fan it out to every other industry that is related in any manner. "related to housing sales, construction and spending from home equity loans."

housing sales, for example when broken down is going to cover a percentage of the marketing industry, advertising industry, sales industry, communications industry, banking and loans, brokerages, with all the leased vehicles, new vehicle sales, rental vehicles, etc. used by that portion of the industry. And so on.

187 posted on 10/10/2006 10:05:13 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Illegal immigration Control and US Border Security - The jobs George W. Bush refuses to do.)
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To: B4Ranch

I fail to see how the normal expansions and contractions of an economy are germain to the subject?


188 posted on 10/10/2006 10:16:30 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: B4Ranch
Just a guess but I would say that half of the GDP, probably over the past decade.

Let's see, GDP in constant 2000 dollars (billions) between 1995 and 2005:
1995 8,031.7
1996 8,328.9
1997 8,703.5
1998 9,066.9
1999 9,470.3
2000 9,817.0
2001 9,890.7
2002 10,048.8
2003 10,301.0
2004 10,703.5
2005 11,048.6

Call it $96.2 trillion of GDP, let's call half, $48 trillion. That's a lot of GDP for what, 1.2 million houses a year? $48 trillion for 12 million houses, works out to about $4,000,000 per house.

Your guess sounds a bit off.

189 posted on 10/10/2006 10:19:45 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Goldbugs, immune to logic and allergic to facts.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

When I look at just the houses I have owned, I can easily see where the lives of at least 2000 people, possibly more were involved in some manner or another.

Remember I am thinking about how someone was invovled in the simple thing such as melting the glass for each light bulb. Without them I would have lived under kerosene lanterns or candles.

You are attempting to restrict the area of involvement to narrowly.


190 posted on 10/10/2006 10:35:37 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Illegal immigration Control and US Border Security - The jobs George W. Bush refuses to do.)
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To: B4Ranch
You are attempting to restrict the area of involvement to narrowly.

Not at all, just noticing that housing last year could not have accounted for $5 trillion or more of GDP. Unless you have some back up showing that it did?

191 posted on 10/10/2006 10:38:57 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Goldbugs, immune to logic and allergic to facts.)
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To: MikefromOhio
I'll let you nuts try to prove the NAU even exists.

I never claimed that it does exist. The facts are that there are some cretins, such as Robert Pastor who have a hard-on for such a thing and will try their damndest to make it happen. Why do you find it so offensive when people try to warn others about scumbags like him?

192 posted on 10/10/2006 10:39:51 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: texastoo; 1rudeboy
For sure, a fast food hamburger stand is a small batch plant utilizing a mass produced product that it customizes for the end user. There is a wide variation in the final product that a mass producer could fulfill if he were willing to manufacture and stock all those variations.

Same way with shutters. There is a mass produced product that is used by small batch plants that are customizing for the end user.

There are numerous other examples.

193 posted on 10/10/2006 10:40:07 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Kimberly GG
So, I put a message out my local Minuteman group and I very much look forward to seeing if there is anything I can do to support them!

These jokers despise the Minutemen too. What a shocker.

194 posted on 10/10/2006 10:41:17 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: MikefromOhio; Ben Ficklin; Kimberly GG; Czar
Secondly, he can have his own opinion, I have my own. And unlike some who are continually harping this NAU BS, opinions on our side of the argument can and will vary and are allowed too.

I'd be interested to get your opinions on what Mr. Ficklin advocates in post #35.

195 posted on 10/10/2006 10:43:48 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: Ben Ficklin

You look at the world market as strong and growing. Overall I do too but my main area of interest is the health and welfare of these United States because this is where my family is. I don't lose sleep when Sudan has difficulties. I do when the US does.

I well understand that the term recession is a curse word in your lifestyle because you are a Republican globalist. An American recession is what causes sufferring amongst Americans, not something I care to witness again.

I don't think that sending our job overseas is something we should be doing if we want to remain top dog. While I am not a true isolationist I'm damn close in your eyes because I care more about America than I do internationalism.

I am aware that the lack of alcohol in my coffee forces me to see what reality actually is. I know it's a tough way to live but have no fear, I can handle it.

"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when it deserves it."
- Mark Twain


196 posted on 10/10/2006 10:48:45 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Illegal immigration Control and US Border Security - The jobs George W. Bush refuses to do.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I have no interest in explaining to you in more detail that I have how an economy breaks down into the various subsections and the inter relationships.


197 posted on 10/10/2006 10:50:50 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Illegal immigration Control and US Border Security - The jobs George W. Bush refuses to do.)
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To: jmc813
Mr Ficklin is not advocating anything in #35, he is merely pointing out the way it is and that the way it is, is not a plot to "destroy America".

OTOH, the isolationists, populists, and protectionists advocate policies very detrimental to America.

198 posted on 10/10/2006 10:52:59 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: B4Ranch

There is no need for you to explain anything in more detail. I'm satisfied just knowing that your guess was wrong and that housing does not compose 50% of GDP. Not last year, not this year and not over the last 10 years.


199 posted on 10/10/2006 10:55:42 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Goldbugs, immune to logic and allergic to facts.)
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To: jmc813; All

Sure sounds to me like he's advocating in favor of the OBL and what he say sounds eerily familiar to Pastor's testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee . We're just not accustomed to seeing it from those who usually bum rush these threads accusing us of tinfoil hat conspiracies in an effort to silence the discussion. I said a while back that once the FOIA came out, the OBL gang were going to have to regroup and get direction on what to do next.

But I've got to hand it to Ben, he appears to be the first. Apparently they realize that this information, thanks to Corsi, etc., IS getting out and those of us who oppose it will NOT be silenced, despite the attempts at schoolyard bullying. I guess they figure they have no other choice but to ADMIT that they are actually IN AGREEMENT with and support Bush's OBL agenda. As if we didn't know ;-)


I would STRONGLY encourage anyone who hasn't, to get familiar with Pastor, imo, one of the most dangerous threats to our country:

http://www.senate.gov/~foreign/testimony/2005/PastorTestimony050609.pdf



200 posted on 10/10/2006 11:22:52 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (Tancredo '08)
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