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Cisco exec: Windows Vista is scary
Cnet ^ | 09/18/2006 | Tom Espiner

Posted on 09/18/2006 9:27:01 PM PDT by Panerai

LONDON--Bob Gleichauf, the chief technology officer in Cisco Systems' security technology group, has raised concerns that integrating Vista into a complex IT infrastructure could present problems.

"Parts of Vista scare me," Gleichauf said at the Gartner Security Summit here on Monday. "Anything with that level of systems complexity will have new threats, as well as bringing new solutions. It's always a struggle in security, trying to build for what you don't know."

Gleichauf told CNET News.com's sister site ZDNet UK that Cisco views the Microsoft operating system update, set for broad release in January, as a bearer of possible solutions to security problems, but also as a potential trigger of security issues.

"Vista will solve a lot of problems. But for every action, there's a reaction and unforeseen side-effects and mutations. Networks can become more brittle unintentionally," Gleichauf said.

The Cisco executive's remarks come as Microsoft and the European Commission move deeper into a tug-of-war over security features in Vista. The company wants regulators to set clear guidelines as to what it can include in the operating system, but the Commission will say only that Microsoft must abide by its competition rules.

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: cisco; embracethepenguin; security; vista; windows
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To: N3WBI3
I am for all those things as well. Loose coupling, tight cohesion is the ideal at which to aim. At one time, Microsoft with its COM model was a major champion of encapsulation.

Because of things like this ("SPAM filtering is part of the OS") Windows should be considered an Operating Environment, because it goes way beyond the traditional bounds of an operating system. The OS should be a layer on top of which one could build a GUI. That is how X works, running on top of the Linux kernel.

21 posted on 09/19/2006 12:35:26 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Turbopilot
but then that test isn't a valid measurement of bandwidth.

It is a valid measurement of a common situation in the Windows world. If you don't have those, you probably have A/V, adware sensing, etc., which also either slows the network or puts more of a burden on your machine, making the WWW appear slow.

Otherwise, you're probably right, but it does all add up.

22 posted on 09/19/2006 12:36:48 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: martin_fierro

I'm a little curious why you would benchmark an eight year old version of Windows and present it without comment, as relevant.


23 posted on 09/19/2006 12:40:52 PM PDT by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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To: js1138
I'm a little curious why you would benchmark an eight year old version of Windows and present it without comment, as relevant.

For starters.
24 posted on 09/19/2006 12:50:06 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: martin_fierro

So if you have an old computer, Linux is better. I can buy that, for what it's worth. But I could pick up newer and faster hardware, week end and week out, at garage sales for five bucks a pop.

A motherboard with an AMD64/3000 can be had for about $120.


25 posted on 09/19/2006 12:57:28 PM PDT by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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To: js1138

I'm a little curious as to why I would go to a garage sale, shell out extra cash for unknown hardware with no warranty, and install a crappier OS on it...

...when I could recycle known hardware with a better, free OS.


26 posted on 09/19/2006 1:05:04 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: martin_fierro
I'm a little curious as to why I would go to a garage sale, shell out extra cash for unknown hardware with no warranty, and install a crappier OS on it...

Stop being such a purist....

27 posted on 09/19/2006 1:06:45 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (1 year guarantee against congenital defects.)
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To: Panerai

28 posted on 09/19/2006 1:09:29 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Tijeras_Slim

You Mac f r e a k .

< |:)~


29 posted on 09/19/2006 1:10:51 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Stop being such a purist....

I suppose that's one word for it.

I'm not going to slam anyone's hobby. I just happen to have Windows versions of some very expensive programs -- worth far more than the hardware -- and I don't have any incentive to fiddle around.

I spent 10 years as a UNIX programmer and have no more interest in it, unless a program comes along that I need.

30 posted on 09/19/2006 1:13:07 PM PDT by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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To: js1138

Gotcha, have about $20K of software on my work laptop. I don't care as long as stuff works.


31 posted on 09/19/2006 1:51:17 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (1 year guarantee against congenital defects.)
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To: Panerai

thats what ya call FUD my boy. :)


32 posted on 09/19/2006 1:52:34 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Turbopilot
Yes, any application consuming significant network bandwidth will leave less available for a speed test, but then that test isn't a valid measurement of bandwidth. Such applications should be terminated prior to running a valid test.

I believe that the original point is that the applications in question (Windows spyware phoning home. Botnet trojan participating in a DDOS.) embed themselves into Windows systems and defy attempts to terminate them.

33 posted on 09/19/2006 2:11:42 PM PDT by steve-b (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.)
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To: Lexinom
That one little word is what will kill Micro$oft.

My first thought exactly. This could have a very large backlash if MS isn't very careful.

But, how does one stop The Juggernaut?


34 posted on 09/19/2006 7:52:24 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (An apple a day keeps the doctor away.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

No one needs to "stop" them. They are an unfortunate reality whose foibles will affect millions of businesses and individuals.


35 posted on 09/19/2006 11:08:51 PM PDT by Lexinom
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