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To: CondorFlight; Jezebelle
But she did not have sexual contact with any of the players.

What Jezebell is trying to say is that lack of DNA does not prove no sexual contact. The cases that you continually post here are cases where someone was very likely raped and in some cases clearly raped, did not know who raped them but IDed someone based on a lineup. The woman was raped by a stranger. She picked out someone and it ended up that she was wrong.

A woman can be raped without DNA evidence being left behind. That is highly highly unlikely in this case because of the rape described by Mangum. But Mangum did not claim stranger rape. Clearly Nifong as he said expected the DNA to reveal who was guitly and absolve the innocent. But Mangum was lying to him in multiple dimensions include that she had not had sex other than being raped recently.

By the time this became clear to Nifong, his job was on the line. So he indicted anyway. Maybe his plan was to drop these charges after winning the election. If so, his miscalculation was that he did not understand that these players would demand vindication not just dropped charges.
385 posted on 09/17/2006 7:52:06 PM PDT by JLS
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To: JLS

"A woman can be raped without DNA evidence being left behind."

Only, I think (although I am no expert) under very unusual circumstances.

But to be raped by three persons, none of whom leave any DNA behind; radically increases the odds against any DNA being found to astronomical levels.

And to be raped by three persons, during a violent half-hour struggle, in which there are multiple ejaculations, scratches, bruises, etc., and have no DNA--
is something that I think cannot happen in the universe we know (maybe in the Twilight Zone). . .


386 posted on 09/17/2006 8:00:01 PM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: JLS

I think what the accuser is alleging is the equivalent of a stranger rape. She didn't know who they were and needed a "line-up" to "ID" them. There was just a finite group of suspects here - everyone at the party. This certainly doesn't fit a date rape or acquaintance rape scenario. They weren't on a date and they weren't acquainted.

The reason I put "line-up" and "ID" in quotes was because I don't think the event where the accuser picked the supposed attackers really conformed to the standards of a line-up. And she didn't "ID" either. She was given carte blanche to select whoever she wanted.



387 posted on 09/17/2006 8:53:00 PM PDT by SarahUSC
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