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Steorn: our technology creates free energy.
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Posted on 08/28/2006 2:26:14 PM PDT by batmast

Our Technology and the Laws of Physics

Steorn’s technology produces free, clean and constant energy. This provides a significant range of benefits, from the convenience of never having to refuel your car or recharge your mobile phone, to a genuine solution to the need for zero emission energy production. It also provides a secure supply of energy, since the components of the technology are readily available.

The technology is in a constant state of development. The company has focused for the past three years on increasing power output and the development of test systems that allow detailed analysis to be performed.

Steorn’s technology appears to violate the ‘Principle of the Conservation of Energy’, considered by many to be the most fundamental principle in our current understanding of the universe. This principle is stated simply as ‘energy can neither be created nor destroyed, it can only change form’.

Steorn is making three claims for its technology:

The technology has a coefficient of performance greater than 100%. The operation of the technology (i.e. the creation of energy) is not derived from the degradation of its component parts. There is no identifiable environmental source of the energy (as might be witnessed by a cooling of ambient air temperature). The sum of these claims is that our technology creates free energy.

This represents a significant challenge to our current understanding of the universe and clearly such claims require independent validation from credible third parties. During 2005 Steorn embarked on a process of independent validation and approached a wide selection of academic institutions. The vast majority of these institutions refused to even look at the technology, however several did. Those who were prepared to complete testing have all confirmed our claims; however none will publicly go on record.

In early 2006 Steorn decided to seek validation from the scientific community in a more public forum, and as a result have published the challenge in The Economist. The company is seeking a jury of twelve qualified experimental physicists to define the tests required, the test centres to be used, monitor the analysis and then publish the results.

Steorn has decided to publish its challenge in The Economist because of the breadth of its readership. "We chose it over a purely scientific magazine simply because we want to make the general public aware that this process is about to commence and to generate public support, awareness, interest etc for what we are doing."


TOPICS: Weird Stuff
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To: batmast

It doesn't matter how many threads this generates, it isn't generating energy form nothing.


41 posted on 08/28/2006 3:37:15 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: thackney
Well given your and others preconcieved notions that it is a scam and such, they were not able to get anyone to lay their reputation on the line to study and publically comment. Research labs and universities turned them down flat. So why not go public and generate enough interest to force the issue?

If it fails it fails. If not, and if they have stumbled onto some previously unknown phenomena, then the scietific community has the data to study, the patent office might consider a patent for it, and then they can make some money and we can tell the ragheads to go eat sand and drink their oil.

From my point of view, I have nothing to lose and am quite willing to keep an open mind and sit back and watch.

I may not be a physisist, but I'm smart enough to know, or at least surmise, that what we know about the universe could probably fill a thimble.

Relatively speaking.

42 posted on 08/28/2006 3:41:22 PM PDT by AFreeBird (... Burn the land and boil the sea's, but you can't take the skies from me.)
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To: AFreeBird
what if they're doing nothing more than tapping a previously unknown source of energy

There is not much that would attract the attention of the physicists and engineers of the world quicker than a slight hint of such a possibility. Every last one of them would put his project car out of the garage and start building these new devices in that space this weekend.

43 posted on 08/28/2006 3:42:56 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: AFreeBird
the scietific community has the data to study

The community of epistemologists doesn't need any data. They would need only a rumor, a hint that it is possible. Any of them can come up with the solution just from knowing it is posible.

44 posted on 08/28/2006 3:45:19 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: AFreeBird
they've at least earned the benefit of the doubt

They have earned an escort out of the office to the door.

45 posted on 08/28/2006 3:47:35 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: kinghorse
Steorn is an anagram for Sterno. I think someone's been drinking it.

Steòrn is Gaelic for guide, direct or manage.

46 posted on 08/28/2006 3:50:30 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† |Iran Azadi| SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d, N0t Y0urs | 8/30: National Geek Day)
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To: AFreeBird
I mean magnets existed before someone figured out that if you spin a coil around them, some form of energy generated.

Not the magnets that they would seem to be using. Those are created by using massive ammounts of electricity and don't exist naturally.
TANSTAFL.

It may not violate the "laws", just found an additional source and one possible way to tap it.

Indeed. But think of the energy needed to create that which they are "tapping" into. They would not be creating energy as they state...simply converting it.
TANSTAFL.

47 posted on 08/28/2006 3:53:19 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Dawn of light...lying between a silence and sold sources...)
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To: AFreeBird
Well, they are supposedly paying all the direct costs of the validation process. I suppose that also entails the scientists time. They are also refusing any and all investment inquiries until after the validation process is done and the results have been published.

This is exactly the kind of sham the ESP hucksters use: accept challenges, or invite challenges, from the scientific community with much public fanfare, then never hold the tests. I would bet a goodly sum that this "validation process" will never take place, due ostensibly to "disagreements about the experimental design," "unreasonable demands from the scientists," "refusal to conduct the test fairly," etc. etc. This will never be reported upon of course, and the bids for private financing will come as surely as the rain follows the thunder and lightning.

48 posted on 08/28/2006 4:05:13 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Indeed. But think of the energy needed to create that which they are "tapping" into. They would not be creating energy as they state...simply converting it.

Agreed. But is this just a matter of semantics here, creating energy as opposed to capturing, or generating or tapping into?

A poor choice of words to be sure.

.. the boy cried wolf so many time that when the wolf did indeed show, the villagers did not come to investigate.

So what was the moral of the story? Not to cry wolf when there is none; or if something is important or desirable to know, is it not worth checking out on the off chance it might be correct?

Both I suspect. But regardless of learning the lesson not to cry wolf, wolf has already been cried many times before, that damage is done. Do we stop investigating?

BTW: I hear it told that the Big Bang, was quite an energetic event. And hey we've just discovered that dark matter might actually exist.

Hey, I got my popcorn, and my beer. :-))

49 posted on 08/28/2006 4:06:38 PM PDT by AFreeBird (... Burn the land and boil the sea's, but you can't take the skies from me.)
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To: Diggity
Military has had anti gravity, free energy technology for years. Diggity

Right. That's why our aircraft no longer need fuelling or refuelling midflight. Those little antigravity chips just do it right.

50 posted on 08/28/2006 4:07:52 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: batmast

Feh. This is stupid if only for a single reason: as far as I know Steorn is not heavily investing on a plant for some industrial process that requires cheap material but huge amounts of energy. It's like the fellow that sells an infallible formula to win the lottery, but doesn't buy lottery tickets.


51 posted on 08/28/2006 4:10:23 PM PDT by Codename - Ron Benjamin (I'm gonna sing the doom song now. Pre-emptive, multi-tasking, interrupt control!)
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To: Codename - Ron Benjamin
According to them, if the technology pans out and is validated, they're going to license it to those with the resources, expertise and need to put it to use. Power & auto co's were on the top of the list. I guess if you're just going to license it, why build a plant?

If it were me, royalty's alone would be just fine.

52 posted on 08/28/2006 4:20:39 PM PDT by AFreeBird (... Burn the land and boil the sea's, but you can't take the skies from me.)
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To: sure_fine
I read where Edison, Tesla or somebody originally figured electricity would be sent wireless for use and they nixed the idea because " How would we tax it?" The price of electricity would be substantially lower without taxes.Plus all those pesky wirings may have been eliminated.>
53 posted on 08/28/2006 4:25:02 PM PDT by Safetgiver (Stinko De mayo, Stinko to the Commies.)
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To: Safetgiver
Tesla.
54 posted on 08/28/2006 4:31:47 PM PDT by AFreeBird (... Burn the land and boil the sea's, but you can't take the skies from me.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Fine, if it is as you say, a scam, then what have you or I lost on it?

I'm not investing now. If it works I'll probably miss out on the investment opportunities anyway. So I'll bitch and moan about that, but I'll tell you this; I'll will be absolutely school girl giddy at the prospects of the ragheads washing down their sandy meal with a glass of oil, lamenting the fact that they squandered their oil wealth on gold toilette seats, Rolls limos, jumbo jets, and grand palaces that will all rust, rot and turn to dust.

I'm rooting for the underdog here. Hope he wins!

55 posted on 08/28/2006 4:39:37 PM PDT by AFreeBird (... Burn the land and boil the sea's, but you can't take the skies from me.)
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To: AFreeBird

Thanks. The quote is accurate, though.


56 posted on 08/28/2006 4:40:10 PM PDT by Safetgiver (Stinko De mayo, Stinko to the Commies.)
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To: AFreeBird
Umm, so Magnetism has no inherit electrical properties, and the magnetic portion of the equation doesn't matter? When we generate electricity, are we really generating it or just the current to move it through the wires and do work for us?

In a generator no work is done on magnetism alone. It is the mechanical motion of the wires (or rotor) moving through the magnetic field that generates the current. It takes more mechanical energy into the system from a turbine or engine that comes out as electrical energy on the wires. The losses are heat from friction and resistance. We do not generate or capture energy in an electrical generator, we transform mechanical energy from an outside source into electrical energy and heat.

57 posted on 08/28/2006 4:53:23 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: AFreeBird
From my point of view, I have nothing to lose and am quite willing to keep an open mind and sit back and watch.

From my point of view, this is also used as an approach to secure federal funding for further research. I pay for it whether I want to or not. If the darn thing worked, they can patent it and make a small scale product to prove the process.

58 posted on 08/28/2006 4:56:38 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: RightWhale
There is not much that would attract the attention of the physicists and engineers of the world quicker than a slight hint of such a possibility. Every last one of them would put his project car out of the garage and start building these new devices in that space this weekend.

No doubt!

Oddly enough there was a hint, but nobody seemed interested, at least publically.

Tell me this. If you were the one to stumble onto this phenomena, one that would rewrite our future, destroy and create industries overnight; a method or device that patent offices around the world would refuse to even look at - would you throw it up on the net with all the other "free energy devices" for all the world to see, or would you sucumb to you own mercinary, materialistic needs and want to get it pantened so you could license it and feed your family and get that Carribean Island you always wanted?

And if the latter, wouldn't you need the scientific validation to take to the patent office with you?

59 posted on 08/28/2006 5:00:30 PM PDT by AFreeBird (... Burn the land and boil the sea's, but you can't take the skies from me.)
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To: AFreeBird
And if the latter, wouldn't you need the scientific validation to take to the patent office with you?

No you don't. You can patent the process without it even working.

60 posted on 08/28/2006 5:05:50 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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