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So much for free will..........


27 posted on 08/28/2006 2:23:42 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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We just think we have it, and there's no way to prove that we could have made any different choices, than we did.


38 posted on 08/29/2006 2:35:28 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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Demonic possession does not annihilate free will, any more than acting under the influence of drugs or alcohol. In each of these cases, a person consents to be "under the influence." To some extent, every sin makes a person less free. Paradoxical, but true: every person is free to fling away their freedom.
50 posted on 08/29/2006 7:26:36 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Mit Brennender Sorge)
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So much for free will...

The devil cannot overtake the will, but in cases of "perfect possession," where a person willfully gives himself over to the devil, the devil is in almost complete control. Nevertheless, redemption always remains a possibility.

The best book that I've read on possession is Malachi Martin's "Hostage to the Devil." I highly recommend it, although it is truly terrifying.

52 posted on 08/29/2006 7:56:24 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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So much for free will..........

Not really. If you have ever read accounts from those who do exorcisms, the possessed became so by their own choice. Often times the victim had no idea what he or she was getting into, but they had the choice. M. Martin also makes mention of those who are "perfectly" possessed. Those whose will was totally with the entity doing the possessing, and liked it that way. He was once asked if Hillary was perfectly possessed, and didn't answer.

Makes one wonder...

65 posted on 08/29/2006 11:28:07 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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