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To: Valpal1

There is nothing at your link, but since you titled it "Abduction Murder," I wouldn't think there would be a whole lot of parents, percentage-wise, who had to abduct their children to kill them - only the obvious non-custodial ones and that might be the whole 14% you're quoting.

As for Danielle, you were the one who was comparing apples to oranges - a primary crime scene where the victim was killed and the body was found, compared to a secondary crime scene where the victim was simply abducted. Big difference in actions involved.


351 posted on 08/29/2006 7:18:46 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66

corrected link is in post 344, I need to work on my html skills.

JonBenet and Danielle are both classified as child abductions and a home invasion abduction makes the home a primary crime scene.

As for the 14% rate, it's mostly non-custodials. You'd think a lot of parental child murderers would try to fake an abduction, but they don't, they try to claim or fake an accident or they confess.

Or they are so whacknut like the one who drowned her 5 children, they don't take any steps to cover up or deny.



352 posted on 08/29/2006 7:46:44 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Big Media is like Barney Fife with a gun.)
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To: Rte66

"As for Danielle, you were the one who was comparing apples to oranges - a primary crime scene where the victim was killed and the body was found, compared to a secondary crime scene where the victim was simply abducted. Big difference in actions involved."

Right. That's what I was hinting at in my earlier post. The Danielle case is not an example of how an intruder can enter a home and not leave evidence b/c Valpa1 didn't establish (and can't b/c we don't know where she was killed) the fact that Danielles case was comparable to that of the JBR case. Once again, you stated it more clearly. It's still apples and oranges, even if we don't know where Danielle was killed. Thanks.

As for the stats Valpa1 quoted those are national statistics that include all sorts of factors not present in the JBR case - it's a misapplication of statistics to make a point.


354 posted on 08/29/2006 7:59:42 PM PDT by ableLight
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To: Rte66; ableLight
Corrected Link: http://www.atg.wa.gov/hits/childmur.shtml

2006 Child Abduction Murder Study

In late 1993, the Criminal Division of the Washington State Attorney General's Office undertook a 3-1/2 year research project, partially funded by the U.S. Department of Justice, Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention, to study the investigation of child abduction murder cases.

In this first research project, published in 1997, researchers reviewed more than 600 child abduction murder cases across the United States, then interviewed the investigating detectives. This data provided law enforcement valuable insight into what investigative techniques tend to be most productive.

Now the Attorney General’s Office has released a follow-up study, including 175 additional solved cases. The additional cases generally reflect and support the findings in the original report with several significant and definite differences:

367 posted on 08/30/2006 7:55:48 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Big Media is like Barney Fife with a gun.)
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