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JonBenet Ramsey Murder Suspect Karr - Case Thread 2
FRee Republic ^ | 8/28/06 | FReepers, et alii

Posted on 08/28/2006 9:01:50 AM PDT by Rte66

This is a reference thread with links to previous FR threads discussing the arrest of a suspect, John Mark Karr, in the decade-old cold case concerning the murder of JonBenet Ramsey, plus case resources for continued commentary on investigation of the crime.


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To: Rte66

see post 280

I wish I could remember which show it was, but I was flipping channels and never sat and watch any full show tonight.


281 posted on 08/28/2006 11:15:19 PM PDT by stlnative (WARNING my post is most likely full of poor spelling & bad grammar which are all free of charge!)
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To: Conservative Texan Mom

Did you download the Karr Warrant and Tracey Email Files?


282 posted on 08/28/2006 11:18:10 PM PDT by stlnative (WARNING my post is most likely full of poor spelling & bad grammar which are all free of charge!)
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To: Valpal1

Finally got it...still reading. Man this is long!


283 posted on 08/28/2006 11:22:38 PM PDT by ableLight
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I have replied to my emails now.


284 posted on 08/28/2006 11:37:26 PM PDT by stlnative (WARNING my post is most likely full of poor spelling & bad grammar which are all free of charge!)
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To: stlnative

I clicked on a link and started reading it earlier, but was interrupted and haven't gone back to it yet.


285 posted on 08/28/2006 11:38:16 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: stlnative; Rte66

thanks


286 posted on 08/28/2006 11:39:45 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: Conservative Texan Mom

you really need to download it when you get a chance.


287 posted on 08/28/2006 11:42:17 PM PDT by stlnative (WARNING my post is most likely full of poor spelling & bad grammar which are all free of charge!)
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To: stlnative

All the people they interviewed last week who knew him "when" kept remembering different cars, lol.

He had the red DeLorean, a Fiat, a black Jaguar two different times, a Porsche 924, and then the other night one of the friends said he had a Lamborghini!

I wonder if he really did, or if the friend was mixed up with DeLorean.

Oh, and did y'all hear that the used car lot was in the front yard of his house? I loved that. It's exactly where I pictured it being all along, lol!


288 posted on 08/28/2006 11:42:41 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66

I just know the Delorean was the one his father found in the junk yard. Had the body work done (probably body filler) and then said that is why it was painted red.

It sounded as if Daddy had it fixed up for Karr with the agreement that Karr would own it after he worked for his Dad for a full year.


289 posted on 08/28/2006 11:56:21 PM PDT by stlnative (WARNING my post is most likely full of poor spelling & bad grammar which are all free of charge!)
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To: Rte66

I didn't read your post right the first time - (read slower stlnative)

Yeah he might have had it mixed up with Delorean


290 posted on 08/28/2006 11:58:35 PM PDT by stlnative (WARNING my post is most likely full of poor spelling & bad grammar which are all free of charge!)
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To: stlnative

That's probably why he "up and left" Hamilton early in his senior year to move to ATL -- maybe to work for his Dad.


291 posted on 08/29/2006 12:17:37 AM PDT by Rte66
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The Micheal Tracey is writing another JonBenet book part... was all part of the plan to get more out of Daxis and to track him down. Daxis wanted a 80% cut off the profits while Tracey would only get 20%.



292 posted on 08/29/2006 2:13:10 AM PDT by stlnative (WARNING my post is most likely full of poor spelling & bad grammar which are all free of charge!)
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To: stlnative

oh my gah!!!!! He is a sick twisted disgusting freak!!!!!


293 posted on 08/29/2006 5:23:53 AM PDT by Halls (Proud to be called a Daughter of Texas!)
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To: Rte66

You really hate Patsy don't you?

Most kids have a history of self decoration or they don't, I've got 4 kids 9-17, two still write on themselves just about everytime they have a pen and two never write on themselves although they will allow the two graffiti artists to write on them sometimes. But they never seem inspired to decorate themselves. The middle child once gave herself Groucho eye brows with a sharpie. Takes a week to wear off. That was hilarious, especially when she realized she would have to go out in public like that.

I give Patsy the benefit of the doubt as a mom who knew her kid's habits. Also, my experience is that kids seldom write on their palms, but on the back of their hands and forearms and legs. I think they dislike the creases in the palms as interfering with their artwork.

Karr is nearly obsessed with Patsy as he is with JonBenet. In his "blurr" I think he sees her as his mother but also himself and the Patsy/JonBenet relationship as the perfect relationship that he was denied by his mother. He also hints the the woman is the violent one.

If he ever finishes his transgender plans, wanna bet he ends up looking like Patsy?


294 posted on 08/29/2006 8:16:29 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Big Media is like Barney Fife with a gun.)
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To: Valpal1; stlnative; Halls; hoosiermama; txrangerette

Here's a curious thought. The highschool friend who came forward and said that Karr was telling her details, and saying he did it; wasn't that within the first year of that crime? The reason I bring it up is that Karr was ridiculing the police for being stupid. He didn't think Patsy had done it. I wonder why? At that point in the investigation there was such a media blitz that almost everyone thought the parents were guilty. Why was he so certain she wasn't?


295 posted on 08/29/2006 8:34:35 AM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: Valpal1

Some folks are always going to believe that Patsy killed her daughter. Even if Karr matched up DNA wise most of them would say that Karr helped Patsy or that Karr was being railroaded. If they ever get another suspect "the Ramsey did it folks" will be the same way.


296 posted on 08/29/2006 8:54:54 AM PDT by stlnative (WARNING my post is most likely full of poor spelling & bad grammar which are all free of charge!)
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To: stlnative

I'm downloading the arrest warrant now.


297 posted on 08/29/2006 9:03:57 AM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: Conservative Texan Mom

Lacy is on TV now - now someone has pulled the fire alarm now were the meeting is taking place.


298 posted on 08/29/2006 9:19:29 AM PDT by stlnative (WARNING my post is most likely full of poor spelling & bad grammar which are all free of charge!)
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To: Conservative Texan Mom

The interesting thing here is that even though the DNA excludes him, it doesn't mean he wasn't involved or came to know who was responsible.

The family alibi is still completely circumstantial as they still have not produced a photo of JMK at Christmas. Only of the kids, plus a letter from one sister in law to the other about visiting.

I have to admit though, that if my husband was absent at Christmas, I would remember it sharply as the Christmas without Daddy.

My point is, without photographic evidence of JMK's presence at Christmas, he's going to be able to continue to peddle himself and his "book" as a potential perp or participant.

I think JMK is certain that Patsy is innocent is because in his delusional version, JonBenet wasn't murdered, it was an accidental death in the course of consumating their "love". It was an accident and a tragedy but no one committed or is responsible for a heinous murder. Totally irrational rationalization.


299 posted on 08/29/2006 9:24:42 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Big Media is like Barney Fife with a gun.)
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To: Rte66

Lacy press conf is saying they can establish Karr's location on december 23rd (not saying where that was). But they can't place him in Boulder, they never could.


300 posted on 08/29/2006 9:26:24 AM PDT by oceanview
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