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Tony Soprano Channeling Sam Spade (Re Sgt. Gottlieb - NY Times Star Witness, Duke Rape Hoax)
Liestoppers ^ | 08-26-2006 | Tony Soprano of Court TV Board Fame

Posted on 08/26/2006 9:33:29 PM PDT by Ken H

Tony Soprano Channeling Sam Spade

I don't mind a reasonable amount of trouble. If I did, would you find me in those dark hours, eyeing some broad at Blinco's, about to find myself in the middle of the biggest story to hit town in years?

I'm Tony Soprano of the Court TV discussion board fame. No, not the guy on that TV show. I just took his moniker cause it gave me cover like a cheap toupee when a fella's follicles are few. I'm not afraid of cops like Gottlieb. I was there the night the caper with the fry cook went down.

Did I see it? No.

Gottlieb and I rub each other the wrong way, like a cheap wool suit you've had one year too long. Things were tense that night, my friends. I shot off my mouth a few times.

As Gottlieb passed my barstool, he leaned in close. I could see the oily sweat on his shiny bald head. "Keep riding on me and they're gonna be picking iron out of your liver." He straightened up and, with his posse following him, sauntered out the door into the alley. What happened next, well, that's the most baffling mystery story in years.

A friend of mine, a newsie, was in Blinco's a few nights later. "Tony, Have the barkeep pour me some of that booze you're drinking, and I'll tell you a story you might want to hear." "Good booze makes any tale you're going to tell one I want to hear." I motioned for him to pull out the barstool beside me. We waited till the dame serving us gave me a wink and sauntered back to the bar.

"Did you see Gottlieb's picture on the front page of the local rag. Did you read the piece saying his boss Nifong should be worried he's going down for the Blinco's gig?'

"Yeah, me and half the town saw that. What's your beef? Gottlieb's days as a Big Shot Bully are as numbered as a Currier and Ives calendar. The cook ratted him out, said the "Bald guy" was the instigator. Of the coppers here that night, Gottlieb fit that description like a Hong Kong suit you had made to order. He's as finished as a Dame from an East Coast Boarding school. He's going down.

The newsie smiled, took another sip of his drink. "Not so fast, Tony, Gottlieb may have hired a lawyer, but he ain't gonna take the fall. Our big story tomorrow is two young cops will take the rap for him. No way bossman Nifong will let his boy Gottlieb go down till the Dukies are duked out." I took a drag on my cigarette and watched the smoke curl across the table. The newsie leaned in and pushed copy of the morning's paper my way.

Our eyes met again as I glanced at the photos of the two cops charged."

But they have hair! Their heads look like lucky sheep who ran from a careless shearer. No way they fit the Cook's description. And Gottlieb lawyered up faster than a railroad car on an icy stretch of track!"

"Exactly. Nifong's the boss. He ain't gonna let no stinking fry cook ruin the best campaign strategy since Washington rowed across a frosty river in Delaware. Gottlieb's the chief investigator. Three months later, he turned in ...pages of notes. His recollection of events added details to Nifong's case like a New York seamstress adds sequins to a songbird's gown. Gottlieb's in solid with the boss."

I sat in stunned silence, not even a come hither look from the comely barmaid could stop my thoughts. The newsie took another sip of the bourbon I bought him.

"It ain't the first time either. One morning. around 6AM, Gottlieb ran a red light and rammed his car into another guy's ride right here in Raleigh. When the smoke cleared, Mr.Nobody's car had $7000 worth of damage. Our man Gottlieb didn't even get a ticket. Tony, if that was you or me, think the Raleigh cops would let it slide like a fried egg on a greasy stove?"

I leaned back. The newsie smiled a knowing smile. "Ain't gonna happen, Tony. Watch and see. The guy with the smashed car, the poor fry cook here that got knocked around? They are NOBODYS, Tony. And NOBODY cares." My beat can be ugly, my friends. The night can be cold. But this story chilled me like a eager bridegroom's champagne waiting to be uncorked. But it's not over yet. Tony Soprano doesn't go down easy.

******Footnote: Unlike some OTHER fiction writers LieStoppers feels the need to distinguish fiction from fact. Should the NYT wish to carry this story, LieStoppers will insist they disclose the difference. Tony Soprano was NOT in Blinco's the night of the Fry Cook beating, but we link to the basic facts of the story that ARE true.

[Links are at Liestoppers, and will be listed in posts to follow]


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: duke; dukelax
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To: TommyDale; Protect the Bill of Rights

Come on guys, don't you remember Kim said she didn't even know how to get tips.


181 posted on 08/28/2006 7:03:13 AM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: Locomotive Breath
And then there's this

Brodhead learned of this development as he was preparing to travel with Bob Steel by private jet to Atlanta, to watch Krzyzewski’s basketball team play L.S.U. in the N.C.A.A. tournament. “It suggested that it was being treated with a degree of gravity and scope very different from what I had been told heretofore,” Brodhead says.

WHAT HE HAD BEEN TOLD!! Note the passive voice (for all you English geeks out there). Why wasn't he asking questions and getting out ahead of the issue? He's been a step behind the whole time and I'll bet he's still confused as to how events overtook him.
182 posted on 08/28/2006 7:20:28 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: All

So they initially thought the attackers were named Adam, Matt, and Bret. That's why they showed Crystal pictures of players with those names. When she couldn't recognize anyone, they came up with the brilliant story that the players had used fake names.

I have been wondering how the fake names garbage got started. Now I see. Desperation when Crystal couldn't ID anyone at all.


183 posted on 08/28/2006 7:24:34 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: All; abb; pepperhead; Ken H; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; JLS

A poster on another site named ERNO brought this up -

He said notice how Himan notes describe the three suspects as Adam, Matt, & Bret

Gottlieb uses 1, 2, & 3 - with no names anywhere.

BECAUSE when Gottlieb wrote his notes - the names had already proved to be of no use to the DPD!

When Gottlieb wrote up his stuff he was already in the habit of disregarding those names and had probably been trying to steer others away (in the DA's office and DPD) from working theories involving the names or doing research based on those names - because he had already gone down that road and it proved fruitless.

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184 posted on 08/28/2006 7:29:47 AM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: Mike Nifong

If Crystal actually maintained a fairly consistent 3 attacker story after her initial statements, why does she pick 4 attackers on 4/4?

Surely she can at least count?


185 posted on 08/28/2006 7:35:43 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6

When the Gottlieb ignores her first hit - maybe she thinks she needs to pick 3 more. He wasn't interested in her first pick - as you know.


186 posted on 08/28/2006 7:38:29 AM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: Mike Nifong

Right, and Collin had to be one of her picks.


187 posted on 08/28/2006 7:39:54 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Locomotive Breath
LB, this is a characteristic of these type "leaders." Not only do they not know, they don't WANT to know.

It's called "plausible deniability"...

188 posted on 08/28/2006 7:40:57 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: abb
Yep, yep, and yep. The University President needs to be a politician and not an academician. Brodhead is constitutionally unable to lower himself to communicate simply, clearly and effectively. There is a time and place for erudition and talking to the general public is not it.
189 posted on 08/28/2006 7:44:47 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: abb
Thanks for the informative New Yorker article. It sure offes a window to the mindset of the academics at Duke. What Brodhead failed to do , despite his abilities to refer to great works of literature, was protect the Duke students.

He allowed protesters and potbangers on the lawn of his students. He did nothing to prevent the satellite trucks from disrupting the campus during the academic year, thus disrupting the entire student body. He issued a lukewarm response to outrageous claims by 88 faculty members who basically indicted their own students. He fired an admired and respected coach without any evidence or investigation. He protected the free speech of the NBPP and suspended a Duke student for alluding to a literary work being studied on the Duke campus. For all of Brodhead's intellectual prowess he failed at the simplest of his jobs: Protecting the safety and well being of the Duke students. So much for the liberal thinking University. The University basically denied the students the most basic of rights-Innocent until proven guilty.

Not a snowball's chance in hell I'd send my kid to Duke while that man is in charge. The sad part is I'm not sure which Universities are any better. Thanks for letting me rant!

190 posted on 08/28/2006 7:57:10 AM PDT by Neverforget01
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To: Mike Nifong; Jezebelle

Yeah, I have said this over and over. Nifong thinks the govenor appointed him god. The DA was god in Nifong's world. From where Nifong spent his entire career it appeared the DA could do anything that he wanted.

He is learning a long overdue lesson. I do agree that any past serious case Nifong handled as an ADA should be examined very very carefully.


191 posted on 08/28/2006 7:58:05 AM PDT by JLS
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To: Locomotive Breath
On that fitful weekend in late March when the TV satellite trucks hit campus, the lacrosse team could be seen practicing for the Georgetown game, a scene that became an endless video loop suggesting institutional indifference. “We had to stop those pictures,” Bob Steel says. “It doesn’t mean that it’s fair, but we had to stop it. It doesn’t necessarily mean I think it was right—it just had to be done.”

And there you have it. We're not interested in right and wrong; we had to cover our a**es.
192 posted on 08/28/2006 8:09:49 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Locomotive Breath

p.s. Bob Steel is Chairman of the Board of Trustees.


193 posted on 08/28/2006 8:11:32 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: abb
Whoops! I could have saved my rant. Gaynor is far more eloquent!

Thanks for the link

194 posted on 08/28/2006 8:13:47 AM PDT by Neverforget01
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To: Locomotive Breath

and they didn't stop the pictures, either...


195 posted on 08/28/2006 8:22:17 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: Mike Nifong
Come on guys, don't you remember Kim said she didn't even know how to get tips.

Imagine how this story might have gone if Ms. Kim had ever told the truth? From her first lie about finding Crystal on the road to her spinning it for financial advantage, to it's a crock to it might have happened.

I would love to have seen the police search Kim's car. We might have found clues to where these two were between 12:53 and 1:22. What kind of substances Crystal was abusing. The missing shoe. The stolen money. Cell phones. Who knows ? I have believed from the beginning that Ms. Kim holds all the answers. Ya think that's why she hasn't been forced to pay restitution?..just maybe?

196 posted on 08/28/2006 8:24:55 AM PDT by Neverforget01
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To: abb

"Arico said the DNA suspect kits that the Duke players provided under court order collect the same samples -- blood, oral swabs, hair and pubic hair."

Arico is wrong. Only photographs and cheek swabbings were taken. That is all that is on the order.


197 posted on 08/28/2006 9:34:09 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6

I e-mailed Dan Way, the writer of the article where nurse Arico mentions blunt force trauma.

He confirmed that Arico was not speaking about Crystal, but in general about SANE exams.


198 posted on 08/28/2006 9:42:22 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6

That's what I thought...


199 posted on 08/28/2006 9:47:14 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: All
DUKE LACROSSE CASE DISCUSSION @ www.ezboard.com

Another good source for the LAX case.  Worth bookmarking.

http://p206.ezboard.com/fhackedbannedandlockeddownfrm22.showMessage?topicID=2.topic

Nifty case calendar

 

200 posted on 08/28/2006 9:51:00 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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