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The following two posts were copied from the other thread. The first is from Mike Nifong, the second from maggief:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1684229/posts?page=888#888

HERE you GO!

Finnerty was NOT included in two Police lineups given prior to the well known 4/4 lineup.

IF GOTTLIEB NOTED ONE OF HER ATTACKERS WAS TALL and SKINNY, WHY WASN'T THE TALLEST SKINNY KID ON THE TEAM PUT IN EITHER OF THOSE LINEUPS ?

BUSTED !!!!

888 posted on 08/25/2006 4:00:11 AM EDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)

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Re: NYT article

Question: When was the SANE report subpeonaed?

On March 21, a week after an African-American woman charged that she had been raped by three white Duke University lacrosse players, the police sergeant supervising the investigation met with the sexual-assault nurse who had examined the woman in the emergency room. The sergeant, Mark D. Gottlieb, reviewed the medical report, which did not say much: some swelling, no visible bruises.

But the sergeant's case notes also recount what the nurse told him in response to his questions: that the woman appeared to be in so much pain that it took "an extended period of time" to examine her, and that the "blunt force trauma" seen in the examination "was consistent with the sexual assault that was alleged by the victim."

Inconsistencies:

"The victim was at home alone with her two young children," the sergeant wrote, noting she walked slowly and in obvious pain. "Her facial expressions conveyed her pain as she ambulated." She sat so neither hip touched the sofa. "Anytime her bottom touched the sofa cushion while repositioning during our interview, she groaned and had a facial expression consistent with pain."

During that interview, the woman, who is dark skinned, said bruises were beginning to show from the attack. A female officer took photographs and confirmed that "she had the onset of new bruises present," Sergeant Gottlieb wrote. (The female officer's report does not mention bruises.)

In Officer Himan's handwritten notes, the woman described all three as chubby or heavy. Adam: "white male, short, red cheeks fluffy hair chubby face, brn." Matt: "Heavy set short haircut 260-270." Bret: "Chubby." The descriptions in Sergeant Gottlieb's notes are more detailed and correspond more closely to the men later arrested: Collin Finnerty, 20, a slender 6-foot-3 and 175 pounds with light hair; Mr. Evans, 23, 5-foot-10, 190 pounds and with dark hair; and Mr. Seligmann, 20, who is 6-foot-1 and 215 pounds with dark hair.

Sergeant Gottlieb wrote: "She described the three men as 1) W/M, young, blonde hair, baby faced, tall and lean, 2) W/M, medium height (5'8"+ with Himan's build), dark hair medium build, and had red (rose colored) cheeks, and the third suspect as being a W/M, 6+ feet, large build with dark hair." //

Interesting: Drug dealer and runaway She had filed the complaint when she was 18, telling the police in Creedmoor, N.C., that four years earlier, her then-boyfriend and two of his friends had raped her when she was a runaway and helping them sell drugs. She told the Durham police that a friend had encouraged her to report her secret so she could hold the men accountable and move on with her life.

889 posted on 08/25/2006 4:22:34 AM EDT by maggief