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To: Dante Alighieri

you can point to dubious fossils and say that evolution has been observed but those fossils are not clearly transitional. For toe to be true there would have to be many thousands of fossils showing the transition of one life form into another. But that simply is not the case. The fossils that you guys point to are simply completed life forms. It's just wishful conjecture to say they are transitional. If that were not the case this debate would be so clearly over without many scientists exposing the holes in toe.
The fact that ID and creationism theories are denied a place in public schools shows that toe is more than a scientific theory. It simply doesn't want to be competed against lest it fall of it's own falseness. Thank God for the internet and other sources where kids can look at both sides honestly.


437 posted on 08/20/2006 7:07:33 PM PDT by fabian
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To: fabian

"you can point to dubious fossils and say that evolution has been observed but those fossils are not clearly transitional. For toe to be true there would have to be many thousands of fossils showing the transition of one life form into another. But that simply is not the case. The fossils that you guys point to are simply completed life forms. It's just wishful conjecture to say they are transitional."

You're not serious? Archaeopteryx is not a transitional? Ambulocetus is non-transtional? Rodhocetus is non-transitional? Do you even read the analyses of why the fossils are transitional? (http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-transitional.html; http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/section1.html#morphological_intermediates)

"If that were not the case this debate would be so clearly over without many scientists exposing the holes in toe." What do you mean by so many scientists? 99.86 percent of all U.S. earth science and life science scientists accept evolution whereas 95% of all U.S. scientists accept evolution. (http://www.religioustolerance.org/ev_publi.htm)

Holes in the theory? Are identical ERV insertions in *multiple* sites in humans and chimps pure coincidence and the will of the Creator? Is that 98.5% of our genome consisting of ERVs, pseudogenes, and noncoding DNA the indicator of an Unintelligent Designer? Are predicted chromosomal fusion in humans a "test" from the Designer?

"The fact that ID and creationism theories are denied a place in public schools shows that toe is more than a scientific theory. It simply doesn't want to be competed against lest it fall of it's own falseness. Thank God for the internet and other sources where kids can look at both sides honestly."

It's denied a place for the reason that 95% of this great country's scientists can see - they aren't science.


439 posted on 08/20/2006 7:15:35 PM PDT by Dante Alighieri
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To: fabian
For toe to be true there would have to be many thousands of fossils showing the transition of one life form into another. But that simply is not the case. The fossils that you guys point to are simply completed life forms.

You have a distorted idea of what constitutes a transitional. It is an organism with features of both earlier and later organisms.

In fossil man, the transitionals are all completed life forms; that is what is expected. But they have features of both earlier and later fossils.

By a strict definition, all organisms are transitional.

(If you want to fight against the theory of evolution, ignore the creationist websites and study science.)

444 posted on 08/20/2006 7:25:51 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: fabian
The fossils that you guys point to are simply completed life forms.

Did you expect transitionals to be some weird half-forms?

You have a limited understanding of evolution which is nonsensical considering how many times you show up on these threads. You should have learned something by now.

455 posted on 08/20/2006 7:42:10 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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