Posted on 08/09/2006 9:18:34 AM PDT by flixxx
Very true. I do recall that he had moved out, but I don't know when it was in relation to the search warrant being served. I remember that all the cops found was the letter from his girlfriend at Boston College and some other meaningless item, so obviously he was long gone by that time.
Good point. Thanks.
If a guilty verdict comes down, a fair judge would enter a directed verdict of not guilty.
It NEVER was a rape case! It was a race baiting, class envy ploy for votes.
Is there a fair judge in NC? I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I just don't like the ones I've seen so far. But that's really only two.
I didn't like Judge Wonkette up in DC either.
Actually, your point that I was replying to had nothing to do with appeals or anything after the trial. You said, "however, if we keep pressuring the media, the eyes of the country will stay focused. With national attention, I'm not sure how off base the jury will go." I was pointing out via the OJ case that national attention does not keep juries from going off base, especially a pro-black jury. Same for Michael Freako Jackson.
I really believe that he moved out when the harassment on campus began, prior to the Panthers showing up. Some may have moved back but he probably didn't, especially if after April 4 his attorney had been advised that he was a target.
And who would blame him? Is he supposed to stick around and be a whipping boy for a bunch of rabid race hustlers?
Very astute observation. Plus: My student said there were a "ton of people" around. Could DPD casually talking to a student might have been able to get some info? Would the roommate (who was there) have given up something?
Memo to self: Oh. Wait. That would have to mean that there WAS something to give up. Sorry. Just like Nifong, I was on the wrong track.....
A ton of cops were in the dorm? Or a ton of people - students etc? If it's cops, that sounds odd. Why do you need a ton of cops to execute a warrant on a dorm room? And they aren't supposed to attempt to question people they know are represented by counsel but they tried once before so who knows.
I doubt Collin's roommate gave anything up because there isn't anything to give up. What could he say?
Secondly, the defense is not going to let a potential land mine sit there waiting to go off at the time of Nifong's choosing.
If there were any bombshells, either the prosecution or the defense would have already made them known, IMO.
mark
A ton of non-students. Cops, my guess. DPD, DPD (durham, duke), Duke admins, etc.
**Worth repeating and further analysis*-- C. Michaels at abc11 today.
"So we have the DA, the police chief, the police chief speaking for
his boss - the city manager. Plus, we have at least two conservative
members of the Durham City Council who, if they didn't concur, would
be putting pressure on their employee, the city manager, to have this
thing scuttled some way, some how, because quiet as it's kept,
Duke U scares people here.
So as damaging as the discovery evidence is to the crediblity
of all involved in this case, key officials, as recently as this week,
are saying we haven't seen everything yet.
While those of you can't understand why this case hasn't been
dropped yet, the Black community is holding its breath, wondering
if ALL of these officials are lying through their collective teeth, and
why, unless they, in fact, do have something."
"...mix in a "corrupt" DA and police chief, city manager and City Council
who are willing to risk the largest civil rights violations lawsuit America has
ever seen (which means both the police and city attorneys must also be
in on the plot to get Mike Nifong elected), and viola,' instant scandal the
likes we've never seen before.**
If the young men are indeed the victims of a vile false prosecution
(and the defense attorneys insist they are) then Hell will hath no fury."
http://forums.go.com/abclocal/WTVD/thread?start=60&threadID=126353
** none of this would surprise a Durhamite. Get out your scorecards
and start counting heads.
In regard to Cash Michaels, he's giving credit to Patrick Baker?
City Manager Patrick Baker went on the record saying the woman never changed her story - and that HE'D KNOW - if she had.
Someone on the Durham Council came out immediately and excoriated the players and said they were guilty and that they would run to their Daddies.
Chalmers is the guy that - before finding out the Bald Man's identity - said the high standards of that department would put anyone that was involved or used those terms in jeopardy.
This is beyond stupid. Every politician in Durham is concerned with the black vote - their support in the black community and how they're viewed by the black community.
It's hard for Cash Michaels to understand how CORRUPT Durham could find a couple politicians that would go along?
Back to Reality: No one on the Durham City council knows what's in the case file. Patrick Baker the worst type of politician. He's running his empire and he has to answer to the Black community in Durham. His wife doens't work and he's got kids and Range Rover. Does anyone think he would take up the extremely unpopular case of a couple of arrogant Duke Students - and find himself out of work?
These people are concerned with preserving their Fat-Cat existence.
Politicians looked at a case and weighed which side would benefit them politically and then took that side.
Frankly, I'm shocked and appalled!
Ask him if he intends to keep up the pressure to tell the full story of the BALD man and Gottlieb.
August 21st is the next performance of the Durham Circus.
We ought to let Titus know that whereas before he could perform in private, the entire world will be watching
him a week from Monday.
And the entire world will be judging his performance. And there will be no hiding of any slight of hand. And if he thinks these are still the good old days when the Durham crowd could do what they wanted and get away with it,
he should be reconsidering.
Charges against him can be filed just as easily as charges against anyone else--and then his buddies are not going to be around to help him, because they'll all be out trying to make their own plea deal. (And don't think the whole of the Durham crowd isn't going down. The FBI is going to have to make themselves look good when they finally do move, and then they're going to have to save face, and they're not going to spare anybody in Durham. Raleigh--the governor, the AG, maybe; but not in Durham.)
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