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Jon Benet Ramsey in Daisy Dukes
Townhall.com ^ | 8/4/06 | Mike S. Adams

Posted on 08/05/2006 9:37:49 AM PDT by wagglebee

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To: AlexandriaDuke

Are you really this stupid?


181 posted on 08/05/2006 6:25:43 PM PDT by MAWG (In the shadows, on permanent ambush duty.)
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To: MAWG; AlexandriaDuke

MAWG, you seem to say there is no coming back from being a sexual predator.

AlexandriaDuke, you say the recidivism for sex offenders is lower than for other things.

What definitions are each of you using? Are you both counting the 18 year old who gets convicted of statutory rape of his 15 year old girlfriend as a sex offender/sexual predator? Are you both restricting your definitions to those adults who prey on children under 13? Could you please clarify what you mean by "sexual predator" and "sex offender".

In my area, people who proposition a prostitute are flagged as sex offenders. I would say that a john could quickly change his ways and not do it again, whereas someone who fantasizes about 4 year olds all day long probably has a long-term problem.


182 posted on 08/05/2006 6:31:12 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (Government IS the problem.)
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To: wagglebee

I couldn't agree less with this drivel...this writer is lost in some strange self induced fantasy fixation of his own.

Pedophiles do not molest beauty queens of whatever age...they simply harm children who happen across their miserable paths.

The rest of his disgusting accusations regarding Jon Benet and her parents are too disgusting to respond to.


183 posted on 08/05/2006 6:34:30 PM PDT by eleni121 (General Draza Mihailovich: We will never forget you - the hero of World War Two)
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To: MichiganConservative
I'm talking about the kind of sexual predator who killed Jonbenet Ramsey. He fantasized about her for weeks or months until he was compelled to act out that fantasy. Now, not all sexual predators kill. Thankfully that is a small percentage. But those who target children, whether they just masturbate in front of them or rape them dont stop. This is not something new. As a matter of fact it is fairly common knowledge. Here in Texas, chemical castration is offered to those who feel they are helpless against their compulsion.

What this has to do with Butch Reno, the Butcher of Waco, completely escapes me.

184 posted on 08/05/2006 6:40:21 PM PDT by MAWG (In the shadows, on permanent ambush duty.)
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To: MichiganConservative

I used Justice Dept. figures in my posts #149 & #155.

MAWG read a book and is angry. That's OK. It's Saturday night and I'll be having a few too. ;)


185 posted on 08/05/2006 6:42:06 PM PDT by AlexandriaDuke (Conservatives want freedom. Republicans want power.)
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To: RepoGirl

Well people can suggest all they want....it is when they begin to demand that I get worried. If it is a kid in clothing it is the parents responsibility. If it is an adult, it is their own responsibility. And if either does not meet with someone elses standards of decency, tough, live with it. I have always had a problem with why is it objectionable for a woman to expose her breasts at the beach? But middle aged guys with C-cup "man-cans" flopping around on the beach perfectly okay? And like I said, many of the people who post these articles are pushing a MUCH bigger agenda that includes much more then just wanting you to dress as they wish you to. I find any faith based desire to restrict others behavior when the behavior is not illegal to be VERY wrong. And it does not matter if it is coming from the Islamic faith, Christian, or any other. I am a live and let live sorta guy.


186 posted on 08/05/2006 6:57:21 PM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: Melas

"I would argue that you're wrong. The differences between individuals are far greater than you'll find by taking homeschoolers vs public schoolers as a group."

I don't think we're defining the issue in the same terms.

I view normal rebellion as things like talking back to parents, being sullen, and generally acting like a 13-18 year old. I'd expect some of that out of any adolescent, regardless of schooling.

What I view as problematic rebellion are such things as drug use, premarital sex, and violence. My argument, and I do agree that I should have defined it better, is that children who are homeschooled have a much lower incidence of those problematic behaviors.


187 posted on 08/05/2006 7:00:33 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: brwnsuga
I chaperoned one of the school dances last school year. These were just middle school kids. I had a headache after a night of keeping kids from grinding on each other or discouraging the young ladies from shaking their tails so hard I thought there butts were going to fly off. I kept a good eye on my daughter though making sure she wasn't dancing like a hootchie. I got hit in the head with chicken nuggets and dodged ice and endured because someone has to watch these kids.

LOL! What a great story!

In two short years my son will be in middle school. I better start investigating a helmet designed to protect one from flying chicken nuggets and ice.

Sounds like your daughter has a wonderful mom. :)

188 posted on 08/05/2006 7:01:08 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: AlexandriaDuke
There are lies, damn lies, statistics and The New York Times. I look upon Govt. statistics like I do MSM polls. I dont believe either one.

" MAWG READ A BOOK AND IS ANGRY."

Actually I've read quite a few on criminology and forensics in addition to the three written by John Douglas. My point is this: sexual predators always re-offend, they cant help it. Most of them are intelligent and learn how to avoid getting caught. There was a recent case in Ca. I believe, sorry I cant give you chapter and verse, where the offender had a notebook that listed victims in the hundreds.

And yes I am angry. I'm angry that this human filth that harms our children exists. I'm angry that Paulus Van Der Sloot who imo raped Natalee Hollaway and helped his son dispose of her body later, is a free man in Aruba. Justice seems hard to come by these days.

189 posted on 08/05/2006 7:07:52 PM PDT by MAWG
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To: RKBA Democrat
What I view as problematic rebellion are such things as drug use, premarital sex, and violence. My argument, and I do agree that I should have defined it better, is that children who are homeschooled have a much lower incidence of those problematic behaviors.

No arguments. We really were talking about completely different things. Unfortunately, incidences of teen sex and drug use aren't as low in the homeschooling community as I'd like, but they're certainly better than what you'll find outside of it.

190 posted on 08/05/2006 7:14:17 PM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: MAWG

Thanks for making me look good while I'm in a possibly unpopular position.

Just MHO .... In the future .... post sober ; )


191 posted on 08/05/2006 7:18:23 PM PDT by AlexandriaDuke (Conservatives want freedom. Republicans want power.)
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To: muryan

You have suffered a head injury maybe?

Well, if you do, you should know that there is about a 1000 mile gap between burkhas and preteen hookerware.


192 posted on 08/05/2006 7:20:45 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: Frank T

Mandatory minimums are a scary thing.


193 posted on 08/05/2006 7:23:54 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: Bogtrotter52

Did you read her inane comment...that is NOT FR material.


194 posted on 08/05/2006 7:27:06 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: Tall_Texan
"It's not proven, though, that her beauty pageant lifestyle had anything to do with her murder."

Let's not be naive here, shall we...........

195 posted on 08/05/2006 7:29:04 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: Melas

I've got a VERY low three digit number when I had a diffferent name or I would NEVER talk about anyone being a Newbie.


196 posted on 08/05/2006 7:30:58 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: Sonny M

Are you serious??? They used the term "weak"?? I thought I was going to get hammered by freepers for that one.


197 posted on 08/05/2006 7:34:47 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: AlexandriaDuke

You keep bringing up drinking. You must be a drunk. I very seldom drink myself. And I certainly havent had anything to drink today.


198 posted on 08/05/2006 7:39:53 PM PDT by MAWG
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To: bubbleb

We should lock up every male from the age of 18 to 70. Eventually the innocent will be found innocent through appeals, and the true child molesters will be locked up forever.(or 25 years). We should also do this with drunk drivers, jay walkers and democrats.


199 posted on 08/05/2006 7:49:11 PM PDT by Albert Barr
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To: RightOnline

I'm entirely serious. We don't know who killed Jon Benet. Since we don't know who did it, it is presumptuous to say that the killer was motivated in any way because of her participation in child beauty pageants.

If you believe it was some pedophile stalker/stranger, that's fine but you'd also have to believe he stayed inside the home long after the deed was done to craft a two-page ransom note in Patsy's handwriting on a notepad found in the Ramsey home demanding the same amount as John's bonus then disappeared without a trace. Even if you are still buying that fantasy, you have no proof that the stranger was attracted to Jon Benet because she was in a pageant as opposed to just playing in the yard or around neighbors. Maybe he did it because he wanted to get back at John for some grievance, not because John's daughter paraded down runways in skimpy clothes.

If you don't believe it was an outsider, then you believe it was someone in the family and not likely a pedophile, making the beauty pageant angle highly unlikely.


200 posted on 08/05/2006 7:59:45 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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