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Pit Bull Care Takes Toll at Humane Society, Costs Soar for Dogs; Abuse Case Pending
Madison.com ^ | August 4, 2006 | Bill Novak

Posted on 08/04/2006 12:38:40 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

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To: Dysart

Just stop. I'm sobbing now! Your work here is done. :(

Glad the jerk was charged! We had a guy in a near-by town that dragged his dog behind his car on a chain for who knows what reason. He's been in prison about three years now by my count and that's not NEARLY enough time served, IMHO.

Boy, THAT looks great on a resume. Such a Big Man doing this to Our Family Dog. What a world of evil FREAKS we live in!

Stop the World, I Want to Get Off! Grrrrr!


21 posted on 08/04/2006 5:03:48 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: sinkspur
I'm stunned.

And I like that show very much as well. His techniques have worked wonders on Pack Lurker. Our very headstrong Pug now knows who runs the pack, and our latest addition, a Papillon, has become completely submissive even to our rabbit.

Mr. Millan has a fine grasp of both dog and human psychology. The folks at our local shelter where I volunteer have taken to using his techniques on 'dangerous' animals and they've greatly reduced the number of animals needing to be euthanized.

Of course there are some animals which are beyond help, and that's a damned shame. IMO they ought to be euthanizing the owners right next to the animals they've abused.

Now all we need are some more loving, responsible folks willing to rescue some animals from our County shelter.

It really pains me to see animals destroyed needlessly.

Did you see the episode with Charley Sheens ex-wife last night? I asked my wife if she thought Cesars techniques would work on Charley. We both agree that even the remarkable Mr. Millan would fail.

But it would make for some great tv.

L

22 posted on 08/04/2006 5:07:22 PM PDT by Lurker (islam is NOT a religion. It's a political ideology masquerading as a one.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
He's been in prison about three years now by my count and that's not NEARLY enough time served, IMHO.

That's a huge aspect of the animal cruelty problem. I think that even though this guy here is charged with felony cruelty, he only stands to serve a maximum of 2 yrs. (That's my recollection from when this case first surfaced.) The penalty must be increased significantly for any deterrent effect to take hold.

23 posted on 08/04/2006 5:14:49 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: sinkspur; Diana in Wisconsin
Cesar's taken dogs just like these pits and turned them into calm, submissive animals whom he keeps as dog therapists to go along with 25 or so other throwaways.

On one of the shows this week I heard Cesar's pack count was up to 47. I'm guessing at least half a dozen of those are Pit Bulls.

24 posted on 08/04/2006 6:00:05 PM PDT by monkfan
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To: Lurker
Did you see the episode with Charley Sheens ex-wife last night?

Denise Richards

I asked my wife if she thought Cesars techniques would work on Charley. We both agree that even the remarkable Mr. Millan would fail.

Bear in mind that Charlie is only half dog. His other half is ass, which he gets from his father. ;)

25 posted on 08/04/2006 6:11:31 PM PDT by monkfan
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To: Lurker
He's on right now.

I'm using his walking technique on my new puppy so that I can get him off leash soon. My other two heel beautifully, though one still has a tendency to want to bolt after squirrels.

The thing is, Cesar is in that calm/assertive mode all the time, from the minute he walks in the door of a home.

The hardest thing for me is to not greet my dogs when I get home after being away. I notice that if I don't do that, they're much calmer, whereas slobbering all over them let them know that they could play me like a fiddle.

26 posted on 08/04/2006 7:04:05 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: sinkspur
The hardest thing for me is to not greet my dogs when I get home after being away

Mrs. L finds that difficult as well. She's working on it, though. Now she lasts maybe an entire minute before Pugsley is in her arms climbing up her chest and kicking one back leg like he's trying to start a Harley Low Rider or something.

Pete the Pap dances at her feet waiting for his turn, and the 17 year old Cocker just sits there looking confused until someone pets her.

I've noticed a difference since I refuse to allow the dogs to leave the house in front of me when we go for a walk. Once it was pointed out that doing so made me the follower it made a lot of sense.

What breed is the new pup?

L

27 posted on 08/04/2006 7:12:00 PM PDT by Lurker (islam is NOT a religion. It's a political ideology masquerading as a one.)
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Bichon Frise, just like the other two. He's a rescue; spent the first nine months of his life in a cage in a puppy mill. When he was rescued, he had scabies, fleas, mange and heartworms. He spent an entire month in a vet clinic to get cleaned up and healthy.

So the little guy, Amon, had a rough start. And he's still trying to dominate the other male, who went through hip surgery a month ago and Amon perceives him as weak (he is, since this was major surgery for a pooch).

He's conceded pack leadership to the little female, Suzy, who simply ignores him, walks around him, avoids him.

I'm finding that the dogs are actually better dogs when I treat them like dogs and not like people. And--I've learned from Cesar--to use hand motions and not talk so much. And they know what I want and I'm a hell of a lot more relaxed all the time around them.

28 posted on 08/04/2006 7:33:46 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: sinkspur
Mrs. L is on a crusade to get these mills shut down in our State. It's a tricky thing. We've nothing against reputable breeders, but folks who breed dogs in unhealthy conditions need a good slapping around IMO.

I'm thinking just use the existing cruelty and neglect laws against these jerks. Believe me if we ever run across one it'll become our mission in life to shut them down.

Mrs. L just called me at work to let me know about the Marathon this evening. I'm stuck at work making sure some folks from downstate are thoroughly checked out on the new Statewide Emergency Communication system.

So it's basically "Can you hear me now" on about 40 different radio freqs from now until midnight or so. What fun. I hope they're re-running this marathon when I get home.

Our 'pack' is an odd one. 3 dogs ranging in age from 4 months to 17 years, one very large very lazy cat, one rabbit who doesn't know if he's a cat or a dog but is darn sure he isn't a rabbit, two small birds, a Beta who lives in a large vase with several bamboo shoots, and one 11 year old boy. Try running that, Cesar!

L

(Did I slip into an alternate universe or something? You and I seem to be having a civil conversation. How did that happen?)

29 posted on 08/04/2006 7:52:23 PM PDT by Lurker (islam is NOT a religion. It's a political ideology masquerading as a one.)
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To: Lurker
Does your rabbit hop around the house freely? I've heard that rabbits can be trained to use a litter box. True?

My wife had a ferret in college, but she said they're really smelly and she'd never have another one.

30 posted on 08/04/2006 7:56:49 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: sinkspur
The rabbit does indeed have the run of the house. And it is very true that they can be litterbox trained. I've owned several rabbits and find they make excellent pets.

They do have a habit of chewing things so you need to provide lots of outlets for that behavior.

Bun-Bun is convinced he's either a dog or a cat. He loves to play chase with both our Pug and our Papillon. It's pretty funny when all three of them get going. The cat wants nothing to do with it-he's far too cool to engage in anything as pedestrian as a game of chase.

After a few laps around the couch the rabbit will leap up on the cats food table and help himself to several mouthfuls of Kitty Chow.

Before we had the rabbit 'fixed' he was absolutely in love with the cat. The thing is, they're both males. You've never seen a 20 pound cat so humiliated as when he's been pinned to the floor and 'mounted' by a 3 pound lop eared rabbit.

I knew someone who had a ferret and I don't care for them either. They smell more like cats than cats. I'll not have one in my house.

Best of luck with your new addition. I hope he or she recovers fully. People who treat dogs like that should be beaten with sticks in public IMO. Like I said if we ever run across one of those puppy mills we absolutely will not rest until they're run out of business using every legal means at our disposal.

I volunteer at the County Shelter so I see the results of neglect and abuse quite often. It makes my blood boil and I don't think the penalties are nearly stiff enough for those who engage in it.

L

31 posted on 08/04/2006 8:14:54 PM PDT by Lurker (islam is NOT a religion. It's a political ideology masquerading as a one.)
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To: Lurker

Good for you for volunteering at the shelter. We've done some rescues in the past, but I just can't be around any place where euthanizing is done. I know it's a necessity, but I just don't want to deal with it.


32 posted on 08/04/2006 8:21:28 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: sinkspur
I work literally right next door to the County Shelter, and its really no big deal. I'm a glorified volunteer dog walker, that's all.

I don't like being around it, either. But they're really short handed over there and the thought of those poor dogs cooped up in cages all day really bugs me.

So I just duck in, slap a collar and a leash on a few of them and give 'em a good walk around the County grounds before I head into the bunker for my shift.

We have a private no-kill shelter around here but the woman who runs it is a certifiable nut case IMO. She's got PETA stickers all over the place and the shelter stinks to high heaven. She's been cited numerous times for health violations so I will have nothing to do with her.

Giving a bit of time at the County shelter is something I can do to help out at least a couple of animals a week. Since I'm practically there already it's not that big a deal.

Last month they had a herd of goats that were taken because of a zoning violation. No one there had the slightest idea what to do with them. It was pretty funny watching dog and cat people trying to deal with a herd of recalcitrant goats. Believe it or not Goat Rescue came to rescue them. I had no idea there was such an organization.

Thank God there was because they were eating the place broke.

L

33 posted on 08/04/2006 8:53:57 PM PDT by Lurker (islam is NOT a religion. It's a political ideology masquerading as a one.)
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To: sinkspur

Unbelievable. I was flipping through some channels and stopped at the Dog Whisperer. I hadn't seen it before. Watched three episodes is a row!

The last one had a boxer about to be put down due to aggression. Watching Milan and that dog & family was nothing short of amazing.


34 posted on 08/04/2006 9:15:48 PM PDT by Rex Anderson
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To: Rex Anderson
Wasn't that something? Those parents had decided to put that boxer down, and Cesar turned it into a good dog, and the family (especially that wussie husband) into responsible owners.

This guy is so contagiously upbeat and positive that his "energy" flows into the dogs and into their owners.

35 posted on 08/04/2006 9:19:11 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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