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Windows Genuine Advantage: What it is, how to ditch it
Computerworld.com ^ | 7/30/2006 | Scot Finnie

Posted on 08/01/2006 8:47:10 AM PDT by BJClinton

It's not easy to remove Microsoft's anti-piracy program, but it can be done
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July 30, 2006 (Computerworld) -- Windows Genuine Advantage (WGA) software is installed on computers running Windows XP via Microsoft's online update services. For most XP users, that means Automatic Updates, which Microsoft has worked very hard since Windows XP SP2 to make us run in full-automatic mode. WGA has already appeared in several beta versions, with slightly different behaviors, and Microsoft appears to be still actively developing this tool. For many people, the fact that the software giant delivers WGA as a security update is another strong note of insincerity. Microsoft may kid itself into believing that WGA has some sort of security aspect, but many knowledgeable computer users aren't buying that.

When WGA detects a problem, it lets you keep running Windows, periodically popping up nag screens informing you that your Microsoft software may be counterfeit. If this happens to you, you should pursue the process that WGA presents; it may provide you with information that will help you rectify the problem.

For example, in my tests I was able to make the WGA "counterfeit" warning appear by changing the date of the system clock one month later. The Web-based WGA program was able to determine that was the problem and it suggested I reset the system date. When I did that, the WGA warnings disappeared. While most WGA detections don't resolve that easily, it can't hurt you to learn as much as you can about why WGA believes your copy of Windows or Microsoft Office may be illegitimate.

With nag screens the extent of the negative effect, WGA doesn't have much of a bite -- for now. But might that change in the future? Microsoft has said it won't "turn off" illegitimate copies of Windows. But could the software giant be interpreting that literally? The more likely preventive measure probably isn't turning off the computer. It's not hard to imagine that WGA might direct its predecessor, Windows Product Activation (WPA), to lock you out of your computer. When WPA kicks in, the computer boots to a login screen that doesn't let you use the computer until a valid activation code is entered. In Vista, this WPA screen links to an option that lets you buy a new copy of Windows, letting you use Internet Explorer for that purpose.

Microsoft has more than once alluded to the fact that it is reserving the right to enforce the installation of WGA on all computers, possibly sometime early this fall. WGA is built into Windows Vista, without any user option to remove it. It's simply not known how Vista's version of WGA will behave.

It is still possible to both remove WGA and to prevent it from attempting to reinstall after you have removed it.

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: billgates; hack; mdm; microsoft; tech; wga; windows; zaq
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21 posted on 08/01/2006 9:49:54 AM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

I had done that but Mrs. BJC ran update when an alert popped-up. I'm leaving it on the family box in the den just to see what happens.


22 posted on 08/01/2006 10:13:38 AM PDT by BJClinton (What happens on Free Republic, stays on Google.)
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To: BJClinton
For most XP users, that means Automatic Updates, which Microsoft has worked very hard since Windows XP SP2 to make us run in full-automatic mode.

For Microsoft, the crappy "security" of Windows is a feature, not a bug. The resulting need for frequent security updates opens a channel that can be leveraged for other purposes (e.g. installing DRM that effectively converts bought-once media into pay-per-view media).

23 posted on 08/01/2006 10:17:02 AM PDT by steve-b ("Creation Science" is to the religous right what "Global Warming" is to the socialist left.)
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To: Shadow Deamon

24 posted on 08/01/2006 10:24:23 AM PDT by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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To: BJClinton

If you haven't received the NAG screen warning you that your copy is invalid (it has a bug that often misidentifies genuine legal OEM copies as invalid) then all it will do is keep phoning home to Msoft as often as they decide with whatever info they decide they want to know about your PC. The information and frequency is totally changeable by Microsoft AT WILL. To stop some of the complaints they recently changed the "phone home" time to a longer duration.

Oh, to make it worse, Microsoft says this "High Priority" Update is still BETA!!!!


25 posted on 08/01/2006 10:30:19 AM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: dread78645

Netcraft confirms it: BSD is dying

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26 posted on 08/01/2006 10:31:12 AM PDT by Crazieman (The Democratic Party: Culture of Treason)
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To: dread78645

Yeah... I run PCLinuxOS here w/KDE.


27 posted on 08/01/2006 10:51:33 AM PDT by Shadow Deamon
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To: Shadow Deamon; Echo Talon; This is a lame ID
Yeah... I run PCLinuxOS here w/KDE.

That makes three of you. Pretty soon you'll be a flock.

:)

28 posted on 08/01/2006 10:54:09 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: nerdwithamachinegun

Ping-a-ling-a-ding-dong for later.....


29 posted on 08/01/2006 11:47:43 AM PDT by nerdwithamachinegun (All generalizations are wrong.)
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To: ShadowAce
"That makes three of you. Pretty soon you'll be a flock."

Heheheh... yeah, but this flock has already spent an hour being productive before you're done scanning for crap that keeps your 3.1gHz P4 running like a 386 between blue screens of death. :)

30 posted on 08/01/2006 12:06:33 PM PDT by Shadow Deamon
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To: Shadow Deamon

< grin > I guess you missed my tagline, eh?


31 posted on 08/01/2006 12:11:46 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

duh.. yes, I did miss that. ;)


32 posted on 08/01/2006 12:29:18 PM PDT by Shadow Deamon
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To: ShadowAce; Shadow Deamon; This is a lame ID

I ditched PCLinuxOS or Mepis 6 Final. :D


33 posted on 08/02/2006 12:05:28 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Izzy Dunne
I wonder if this article falls under the DMCA - which makes it illegal to circumvent copy-protection measures.

its on Microsodts website how to remove WGA...

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=921914

34 posted on 08/02/2006 12:11:37 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: BJClinton

Ping for later.


35 posted on 08/02/2006 3:50:11 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: Echo Talon
its on Microsodts website how to remove WGA...

Oh, cool. So Microsoft gets busted for providing instructions on how to remove their own copy-protection stuff.

How Machiavellian can you get?

;->

36 posted on 08/02/2006 5:44:44 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Echo Talon
"I ditched PCLinuxOS or Mepis 6 Final. :D"

Being a noob with Linux I'm pretty darned happy with PCLOS, what does Mepis offer you that was lacking in PCLOS? I realize that distros are geared toward the end users wants and needs, just curious how you use your system differently than I do.

My needs are basic, just pretty much a replacement for WinXP and this sure fill that bill for me. ;) I did order the free CDs from Kubuntu just to have them, might reconfig and put it on a partition for fun and learning.

I honestly haven't this much fun with my computer since my Atari 800 days.

ttyl

37 posted on 08/02/2006 6:42:11 AM PDT by Shadow Deamon
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To: Shadow Deamon
im a noob too... but learning... I had fedora core 5 on here the other day(my main system) updated the kernel and got my Ati x800xt up and running and also used fedora frog for some updates.. but decided to go back to MEPIS 6. :) too... PCLinuxOS is good... its just that its a little old, AND it doesn't detect my hardware as well as MEPIS does i.e. the WiFi for my old IBM ThinkPAD T21, PCLinuxOS doesn't detect it... :( MEPIS and Ubuntu/Kubuntu do... Berry linux also doesn't detect it, at least I couldn't get Berry to work with the wifi on it.

I guess it just comes down to preference and what you get comfortable with...

38 posted on 08/02/2006 11:11:37 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Echo Talon
I guess it just comes down to preference and what you get comfortable with...

Yup. That is both the strength and weakness of Linux. Its a strength in that it gives the user control over his system, but its a weakness in that it makes it difficult, if not impossible, for one company to provide support, etc.

Personally, I use Fedora Core 5. My first distro was Red Hat 0.9, I believe in 1995. I've been using the RH flavor since then. I've dabbled with others, but always come back to FC, since that is what I am used to.

39 posted on 08/02/2006 11:30:53 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce
Fedora Core 5 is ok, but its installer is horrible.. its got nothin' over synaptic... ;)
40 posted on 08/02/2006 12:01:30 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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