Art, as usual was pushing the Mayan 2012 calender issue when John Hogue said that the major happenings in 2012 is really triggered in 2008. (That's when Art got noticeably excited) Hogue suggests starting in 2008 many weather related catastrophes, possibly triggered by an nuclear exchange (nuclear fallout?). He said a major city would "disappear" in USA, and many others around the world. He cited Nostradamus and star signs, showing Iran as being the major aggressors in the middle east, starting the real beginning of the 30 year war he believes to take place, starting in 2008. The stuff going on now in the middle east are precursors for the big 30 year war to come. He also said China will stay out of the fight - mopping up and victorious after the rest of the world is in shambles. ...This is all paraphrasing and based on limited memory cells. :)
Interesting . . .
Those 'in the known' as far as my 'feelers' are detecting
REALLY DO KNOW OF !!!!SOMETHING!!!! VERY, VERY, VERY UNTHINKABLY HORRIBLE to occur in 2012.
And I have been unable to get even the faintest hint as to what ball park it's in--whether war, natural disaster, quake, meteor or whatever. They won't budge. They just keep repeating that "You do NOT want to know."
I do not think China will stay out of it. They may delay somewhat entering the fray. But they certainly expect to be king of the hill at the end. They feel it is their due to be king of the hill and that the next century will be the CHINESE century.
Thankfully, God has other plans.
Thanks much for your summary. Am staying up to try and transcribe the BUZZ ALDRIN segment supposedly beginning at the top of the hour. . . . will do it on that thread.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1672007/posts
About post #330 or thereabouts.