Posted on 07/26/2006 3:22:50 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
Neither do I, but that doesn't change the fact that the Confederate flag is a symbol of segregation does it?
The Times uses it to demonize the South and try to split it from the rest of the Republican base.
I don't know any Republican who reads the NYT and takes it seriously, do you?
The NAACP uses it to rally their own supporters and keep them offended and voting together as a block.
Sounds like the same tactic the segregationist Democrats like George Wallace used for DECADES, and now you complain?
If you live in a state that flies the flag, you certainly have the right to vote against the politicians that use it. Even if the flag is only flying on a monument to Confederate soldiers, the ancestors of many people of that state.
Politicians should NEVER have been allowed to appropriate such a symbol of honor in the first place, wouldn't you agree?
Perhaps you are simply opposed to letting the people of another state decide what they want even if what they do doesn't violate the Constitution.
Look, George Wallace led the vanguard of southern Governors trying to maintain the practice of segregation in the face of federal civil rights laws. He adopted the Confederate flag as a symbol of his pro-segregation position, and in so doing indelibly stained what had been an honorific symbol of a failed Southern cause.
Wallace wrapped his rhetoric in the same state's rights language so often heard by the gray diaper babies on these boards today, but his underlying message of segregation shone through as clearly as it had outside the Montgomery Statehouse in 1963 when he announced that "From this cradle of the Confederacy....I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, and segregation forever."
Are you a descendant of Thaddeus Stevens perhaps?
I'm still a strong believer in civil rights for ALL Americans if that's what you mean.
Did you go to his wedding performed by Richard Butler himself at the Aryan Nations compound in Idaho?
And just to preempt your denial that this is some lie concocted by the SPLC, you might note the Lyons admits it on his own website.
I know this hurts, Watie, but the evidence is pretty clear that you're either a stone racist white supremacist, or their dupe.
Not to me. To you perhaps, but apparently you can be easily swayed.
I don't know any Republican who reads the NYT and takes it seriously, do you?
Their target is the wishy washy RINO supporters, who do form part of the Republican base.
Sounds like the same tactic the segregationist Democrats like George Wallace used for DECADES, and now you complain?
LOL. George Wallace probably wore a white shirt when he did all those things, but I'm guilty I guess -- I still wear white shirts.
I'm no supporter of George Wallace. Never have been. If you'll remember what I've posted on these threads before, I spoke out against segregation when I lived in the Deep South in the 1950s.
The heritage societies (SCV, UDC) did complain about the misuse of the CBF during that time and dating back to the 40s, IIRC. I posted some links to those protests once long ago, I think.
Politicians should NEVER have been allowed to appropriate such a symbol of honor in the first place, wouldn't you agree?
FYI, the UDC complained when politicians incorporated the CBF into the 1956 Georgia flag, as I remember. As long as the people of the state agree and it doesn't violate the Constitution, I don't have a problem.
Look, George Wallace led the vanguard of southern Governors trying to maintain the practice of segregation in the face of federal civil rights laws. He adopted the Confederate flag as a symbol of his pro-segregation position, and in so doing indelibly stained what had been an honorific symbol of a failed Southern cause.
Wallace wrapped his rhetoric in the same state's rights language so often heard by the gray diaper babies on these boards today, but his underlying message of segregation shone through as clearly as it had outside the Montgomery Statehouse in 1963 when he announced that "From this cradle of the Confederacy....I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, and segregation forever."
Indelibly stained, huh? I guess I'm just slow to pick up on these new ideas.
At the time Wallace was doing his thing, I was registering one of the very first black students into a Southern university. He came around at night to avoid the crowds. I was manning the evening registration desk. He looked scared. I sent him back to one of the departments to get some credit for some courses he had already taken at a black school. He looked at me like I was sending him on a wild goose chase. But he came back smiling a few minutes later with credit for several courses in his hand.
I'm still a strong believer in civil rights for ALL Americans if that's what you mean.
So am I, but I wouldn't have supported Thaddeus Stevens. Here is Stevens on the floor of the US House on May 13, 1868:
I offer an amendment to the constitution of the State of Georgia. [an amendment that tried to reward Union supporters and penalize those who favored secession]
For which he was chastised by another member of the House for trying to have Congress amend state constitutions.
'Standy, what do you have to say today?'
"BRRAAWK,,,,Don't you get tired of being RIDICULED as a LUNATIC/idiot/BIGOT??? BRRAAAAWK...Where's MY cracker? BRRRRAAAAWK!! You DAMNyankee BILGE collector, BRRRRAAAAWK...BRRRRAAAAWK...!!!!!"
you HUMILIATE the DAMNyankees on FR & PLEASE us "good 'ole rebs"!
RANT ON! (you too serve the risen southland, by being a hate-FILLED FOOL!)
free dixie,sw
it remains FALSE, despite the FACT that you're about 6 times as smart as the rest of the DUMB-bunnies with whom you associate.
free dixie,sw
free dixie,sw
God, I love it when he uses that one. When I tell my friends, they just crack up.
Risen southland? When did it rise? Did I miss it?
"you too serve the risen southland" It sounds like Adolph screaming about serving the Third Reich. Or maybe he means all those high-rises in places like Atlanta where the majority of people have relocated from elsewhere.
I think that a gesture is in order on both sides. M. Espinola, Heyworth, and mac_truck. I order you to eat a grit in an attempt to bring out the inner-southerner from deep inside you. I have no idea where in civilization you will find a grit but the problem is yours. Do it!
stand watie, I believe that in return you should attempt to find the inner-Yankee in you. We in the North love our college football. We love the pageantry, we love the rivalries, we love the game itself. So I request that you go out and learn all the lyrics to a Northern University's fight song. I choose the University of Oklahoma. Please look up and memorize the words to "Boomer Sooner" and report when done.
Now, all of you go forth and sin no more.
he was a TULSA HURRICAINE, who was about as fanatic about the "caines"as i am about the WAR EAGLES!
(you HAVE to "know a little something" about OK to truly understand that.) TULSA & OU do NOT "play nicely together"!
free dixie,sw
Thats grits and bacon with one fried egg in case you were wondering...
LOL. Is that you, Al Haig?
I'm looking for grits. Can I do polenta instead?
free dixie,sw
non does have a sense of humor as his post 492 indicates. And he makes good points from time to time.
(There, non, I've risen above faint damning praise.)
PITY that the coven is NOT at all like him.
free dixie,sw
No polenta, grits! I have spoken!
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