[tpaine]

Hemingway's Ghost: "Freedom does not mean the right to jack it in public, nor would a Libertarian argue that it does."

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Would said Libertarian be able to explain how that behavior harms another? Unless you're arguing that laws may be passed against behavior that merely offends another? -75-

Public displays of offensive behaviors are harmful as they lead to breaches of peace.

The Libertarian conception of justice says that individuals have rights not to be harmed in certain ways (force, theft, fraud) by others, and rights to live as they choose so long as they do not harm others in these certain ways.

A public display of masturbation offends others, leading to breaches of the peace, -- thus, the masturbators behavior may be restrained using due process of law.

Third request. How does your Libertarian justify a law agaist such behavior?

Because paulsen, if you were to persist in such behavior, in public, someone will come along and use 'undue' force, leaving you with a bloody stump. -- We libertarians don't think that's the right way to resolve the issue.

[Hemingway's Ghost]

Because paulsen, if you were to persist in such behavior, in public, someone will come along and use 'undue' force, leaving you with a bloody stump. -- We libertarians don't think that's the right way to resolve the issue.

Heh heh heh.

I'm still emotionally disturbed over the whackin' it in public imagery.

[robertpaulsen]

"Public displays of offensive behaviors are harmful as they lead to breaches of peace."

True. Then punish the breach of the peace (assuming, of course, that others are harmed). Certainly you're not suggesting that we're justified in writing laws against any "offensive behavior" that may result in some breach of the peace.