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To: A0ri
"For example, I myself am an ID'ist. I believe in Microevolution, but not in heavy Macro. I do not disagree with arguments that include or involve Christianity. I do disaree with the general philosophy of atheists to use it is a "proof" against Christianity -- as it is often used by my Socialist friends. I use Christianity to support Conservatism, wheras my Socialist friends use evolution to support flawed human "enjoyment" behavior."

Point taken.

However you can't just make pronouncements that Evolution includes attitudes it simply does not. No matter that some atheist evolutionary scientists use evolution to pummel the religious, atheism is not part of Evolution. I am and have been a strong atheist for almost 40 years. I do not use Evolution as a cudgel to beat the religious. This is, in part, because I realize the current limitations to the SToE in addressing processes before life existed.

That some use the StoE as a weapon really says nothing about that validity of the science or its findings. It's an unfortunate reality that science has been misused for centuries for political gain. It has also been used to make life more enjoyable and meaningful.

Just to take a small side trip from the thread topic...
Sudden jumps in the diversity of life frequently correspond to extinction events and/or increased bombardment from space. Does this suggest/favour pure Earth bound evolution or potential ID influence?

If it is from an ID influence, how would we tell the difference between that influence and Evolution? If it is an ID influence how would we test the hypothesis? If we cannot tell the difference between this type of ID influence and Evolution, but we can devise tests for Evolution, which should we pursue?

197 posted on 07/23/2006 3:00:27 PM PDT by b_sharp (Why bother with a tagline? Even they eventually wear out! (Second Law of Taglines))
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To: b_sharp

I agree, but from a Conservative stance, I have seen Evolution thought processes used to justify Liberalism. Especially in younger parties. The community needs to mature -- though, as a large portion of Liberals supporting the community, I do not see this happening in the distant future without strict guidelines to include the heavy Christian Conservative population.

I view Evolution (non-micro or ID based) as an atheist philosophy by standard -- this is accepted true by non-liberal Christians.

I view the Christians as generally Conservative.

I see a large statistic of Conservatives as Christian.

What happens when Christianity is removed?


206 posted on 07/23/2006 3:15:12 PM PDT by A0ri
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