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Durham Police Begin Probe Of Alleged Assault At Raleigh Bar (Investigators under investigation)
WRAL.com ^ | July 22, 2006 | WRAL .com

Posted on 07/22/2006 4:18:08 PM PDT by TommyDale

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To: Neverforget01

Yea, great.
They might appeal? There will be public outcry?
Meanwhile, I presume, they will be sitting in NC prison?
How long do you think they would last in NC prison?


1,061 posted on 07/26/2006 8:22:33 AM PDT by jennyd
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To: JLS

Doesn't Nifong need Dad and the drivers to establish his time line? The cell call to Dad helps establish the time she arrived at the party.


1,062 posted on 07/26/2006 8:25:31 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Neverforget01

That they would be vindicated on federal appeal is a certainty. Not so sure about NC state court. Are those above cut of any finer cloth? It's just such a travesty that the defendants' lives are being put on hold for now, and tarnished forever, by this snakeoil salesman's charade. We all recognize that, even WHEN proven innocent of all charges, the charges alone, and perhaps more than a few NBP skulks will haunt these guys forever. I couldn't be more enraged.


1,063 posted on 07/26/2006 8:29:47 AM PDT by NDLax84
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To: jennyd

I'm still holding hope some judge along the way throws this nightmare out and it never goes to trial. If it does, I can't believe 12 people would find them guilty with zero evidence...none..zilch. I don't care what color the jury is. The only witness the prosecution can call is CGM herself. It would take four weeks just to get through all her versions of the events. I'll especially like the one where she accuses Kim of participating and robbing her.


1,064 posted on 07/26/2006 8:32:37 AM PDT by Neverforget01
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To: Neverforget01

Lemme axe you a question: Was she not put in that predicament by the white devils who lured her to their den of inequity? Hmmmmmmmmm? And need I remind you that they called her a "nigger"? My vote is guilty. Who's with me now? C'mon! Lemme see those hands....


1,065 posted on 07/26/2006 8:36:08 AM PDT by NDLax84
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To: NDLax84

Sorry, even Durham cops use the N word--far cry from rape JMHO.


1,066 posted on 07/26/2006 8:37:48 AM PDT by Neverforget01
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To: Neverforget01
Yes. But you have a working mind, although recognition of sarcasm may not be your storng suit :^P I'm stringing out the hypothetical of Nifong getting just his perfect jury for this case.
1,067 posted on 07/26/2006 8:42:18 AM PDT by NDLax84
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To: abb

Leopards don't change their spots. Like most lefties, she thinks saying there will be a change is enough - executing it never happens.


1,068 posted on 07/26/2006 8:57:31 AM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: JLS

That I can't say, not being familiar with the Durham judiciary.

One can hope.


1,069 posted on 07/26/2006 8:59:31 AM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: TommyDale
Jakki O'Knight? She certainly doesn't LOOK Irish!!

Silly, haven't you ever heard of the Black Irish? :-)

1,070 posted on 07/26/2006 9:00:58 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: darbymcgill; Protect the Bill of Rights; maggief

"went to Brian's to shower"

She actually showers? I thought she got pushed through a car wash!


1,071 posted on 07/26/2006 9:03:06 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: NDLax84; All

Nifong brags about trying 300 felony cases, but I am curious if he has ever gone head to head in front of a jury with Cheshire, Osborn or any of the other lead attorneys in this case.

Anyone know?


1,072 posted on 07/26/2006 9:06:07 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: maggief
Doesn't Nifong need Dad and the drivers to establish his time line? The cell call to Dad helps establish the time she arrived at the party.

No. Mangum herself can testify as to when she arrived. The whatever she says is in evidence and it is up to the defense if they don't agree. It is not like their is a dispute as to whether she was at the party. And if he wants he can use the cell phone information.

Nifong has no reason to put any more loose cannons on the stand than he has to in this case. I really think Nifong's case will be simple:

1. Maybe a police officer who saw her that night at first.

2. The a cell phone expert to establish when she arrived.

3. If he is brave, someone from service that sent her there to establish that the players lied about the number in attendence.

4. If he is brave Pittman [aka Roberts] to set the seen.

5. Mangum to claim rape and ID if allowed.

6. SANE in training to say she saw swelling.

7. DNA expert to claim the inconclusive on the nail was a partial match.

I don't really see why he needs any of the detectives. That really is the case. A claim of rape, swelling and an inconclusive DNA test.
1,073 posted on 07/26/2006 9:09:00 AM PDT by JLS
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To: Jezebelle
That I can't say, not being familiar with the Durham judiciary.

One can hope.


Well we are becoming more familiar with the Durham judiciary every day. One judge, found Evans guilty on a noise violation when another judge had previously found the person ticketed with him not guilty. That suggests inconsistent results don't bother Durham judges.
1,074 posted on 07/26/2006 9:28:31 AM PDT by JLS
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To: JLS
As we've remarked so often, the main part of his case is to get Mangum and Pittman/Roberts to point at the defendants and say "they called us n*gg*rs". The (lack of) the rest of the evidence won't matter and Nifong thinks, by making it all about race, a Durham jury will convict. He may be right.
1,075 posted on 07/26/2006 9:32:06 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Locomotive Breath

OJ was not on trial, the LAPD was put on trial, because Judge Ito allowed that.
And the LAPD was convicted.

The Duke Three won't be put on trial. White hubris, white oppression, Duke superiority, etc., will be put on trial.

The OJ jury was composed of people who had not read about the trial--that is, no newspaper readers and media watchers.

This trial will probably be similar. How much do such people understand about DNA and altering time stamps on photos? They will be snowed under for days and days
with technical data, in order to leave them confused.

In the end, they will know only that the AV pointed to the three guys and said they raped her. Or, that "something happened in that house".

If this trial had a jury of the defendants' PEERS, which is the way the jury system is supposed to work, then any jury of students, college-educated persons, or persons without a grudge against rich white preppies, would find them innocent in five minutes.

But we aren't allowed to give them that kind of jury protection.

Or a change of venue.

So the system is corrupt.

And that's why this must never come to trial.


1,076 posted on 07/26/2006 9:53:44 AM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: TommyDale

TD, I think that in hooker/pimp language "shower" means something totally different than what you are thinking of.


1,077 posted on 07/26/2006 10:10:23 AM PDT by Hogeye13
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To: Hogeye13; Jezebelle

Yes, I'm aware of that. ;-)


1,078 posted on 07/26/2006 10:12:15 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: CondorFlight

Lest anyone think that a Durham jury couldn't convict the 3 Lax players, look here what a jury in Texas just did...

Verdict Reached in Andrea Yates Case (UPDATE: Not Guilty by reason of insanity)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1672628/posts


1,079 posted on 07/26/2006 10:14:10 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: TommyDale

Well I'm not aware of what it means in the pimp/hooker world.
Freepmail if needed, :-)


1,080 posted on 07/26/2006 10:17:25 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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