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To: Richard Kimball
"I'm afraid you're incorrect about Firefox. I just tried switching the search engine to Yahoo, closed the program, re-opened, and Yahoo was still the default search engine"

What does that have to do with what I said about IE 7 or Firefox?
Repeat.: IE 7 keeps whatever search default that you had before when you download it
That still stands.

"As to your claim that MSNBC is either #1 or near the top, I think they're #9, behind CNN, CBS, ABC, BBC, Google News, Reuters, World News and Yahoo."

Perhaps you will show me the figures from comScore Media Metrix Announces or any other reputable web tracking aite that says that, yes?


"I never claimed that legal action should be taken for them using a proprietary format, simply that it was a monopoly tactic in an arena where a monopoly tactic wasn't effective"

What constitutes and doesn't constitute an illegal monopoly act by Microsoft reamins the domain of the DOJ, who continue to closely monitor the anti-trust agreement reached with Microsoft.
Plus I never said anything about file formats anyway.
You are mistaking me for someone else.
89 posted on 07/22/2006 11:17:47 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: Jameison
Repeat.: IE 7 keeps whatever search default that you had before when you download it That still stands.

You have the option of importing preferences and bookmarks when you install Firefox, but I'm not going to delete it and reinstall it just to prove you wrong again.

Perhaps you will show me the figures from comScore Media Metrix Announces or any other reputable web tracking aite that says that, yes?

You haven't backed up your claim that MSNBC is number one, but netnews top 20 lists MSNBC as 9, and Alexa web search lists them at 8.

What constitutes and doesn't constitute an illegal monopoly act by Microsoft reamins the domain of the DOJ, who continue to closely monitor the anti-trust agreement reached with Microsoft.

I know you've got battles going with several posters, but you're responding to a claim I never made. At no point in time, in any of my posts on this thread, have I advocated DOJ get involved or claimed that what MS does is illegal. A monopoly is "Exclusive possession of a market by a supplier of a product or service for which there is no substitute." Once again, Microsoft has a perfect right to set up their web site any way they wish. However, in the case of MSNBC, they are attempting to leverage their desktop domination by requiring use of their products to access the MSNBC streaming content. They believe that this will induce people to get Microsoft products in order to get the content. I believe it is a tactical mistake on their part, as similar content is available from numerous sources. Nowhere do I suggest that DOJ should get involved, and I reject your premise that because the DOJ is monitoring Microsoft, I should refrain from commenting on MS tactics.

Plus I never said anything about file formats anyway. You are mistaking me for someone else.

Aww geez. I'm sorry. This is my fault. I should never have responded to your first post. This statement proves one of two things; either you are totally incapable of understanding the premise that the proprietary format is the tool Microsoft uses to erect barriers to competing software packages, or you are simply engaging in sophistry to avoid discussion. In any event, I won't bother you with posts anymore.

92 posted on 07/22/2006 12:30:10 PM PDT by Richard Kimball
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To: Jameison
"As to your claim that MSNBC is either #1 or near the top, I think they're #9, behind CNN, CBS, ABC, BBC, Google News, Reuters, World News and Yahoo."

Top 50 rankings from comScore Media Metrix (the # 1 web ranking company on the planet) for December 2005.

http://www.comscore.com/press/release.asp?press=710

The BBC doesn't even appear on the radar screen.
104 posted on 07/31/2006 3:54:07 AM PDT by Jameison
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