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Tour de France: Stage 17 Live Thread (Thursday, July 20, 2006) Col de Joux-Plane
VeloNews.com ^ | July 20, 2006 | VeloNews.com

Posted on 07/19/2006 9:15:41 PM PDT by nutmeg

Stage 17: St. Jean de Maurienne to Morzine-Avoriaz -200.5km

Course: This is almost identical to the stage in 2000 when Marco Pantani attacked on the first climb (the 15km, 6.4-percent Saisies) and forced Armstrong's U.S. Postal squad to chase for 100km over the Aravis, Colombière and Châtillon climbs to the foot of the day's main obstacle: the mighty Col de Joux-Plane (11.7km at 8.7 percent). It was partway up the Joux-Plane that Armstrong bonked and could only watch as Ullrich and others rode away from him, and he conceded almost two minutes by the finish in Morzine.

History: Morzine has seen 13 finishes of the Tour, including that one six years ago, which was the last time the ultra-steep Joux-Plane was climbed in the Tour. The only Tour winner to win a stage into Morzine was Pantani, who scored a solo victory here in 1997, the year before he won the Tour. Morzine's mountaintop neighbor, Avoriaz, has seen stage wins by two other Tour champions, Lucien Van Impe and Bernard Hinault.

Favorites: If riders are still battling for podium spots, then the Joux-Plane climb and descent suits Leipheimer and Landis. But it's more likely that a long-distance break will succeed, giving a rider like Michael Rasmussen a chance to win the stage and the King of the Mountains competition.

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TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: cycling; greenmachine; miracle; tdf; tdfstagethread; tourdefrance
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To: bwteim

LoL. With the "suffering on the Iron Cross" comment yesterday & your haiku there, they're going to have to come out with a new, revised edition of that "Dancing on the Pedals:The Found Poetry of Phil Ligett" book!


521 posted on 07/20/2006 8:23:32 AM PDT by leilani (Tu avais raison, Scarlett. Demain fut un autre jour!)
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To: green iguana
Well, in the first time trial Landis put more than a minute into Pereiro and Sastre...so it should be pretty interesting on Saturday.
522 posted on 07/20/2006 8:24:08 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: kevkrom

17:21 CEST
Pereiro was probably regetting his "Let him go, he'll die in the hills" tactic on the Col des Saisies. But he still leads the classification by 11 seconds from Sastre and 31 to Landis.


523 posted on 07/20/2006 8:24:09 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: gopwinsin04
Saturday's TT:


524 posted on 07/20/2006 8:24:13 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: Ready4Freddy
Total complete shock at the moment. What an amazing ride by Floyd today. From out of the tour to :30 back in one stage.

He put 1:10 on Sastre, and an ungodly amount on Perreiro Sio in the first time trial.

With over 2 minutes on Kloden, Floyd is right back in the drivers seat for Saturday.

Tomorrow whould be interesting. Will Kloden and T-mobile try to attack, or will everyone behave and wait for Saturday?

525 posted on 07/20/2006 8:24:29 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: NittanyLion

And on Sunday - racing 'til the end!


526 posted on 07/20/2006 8:25:00 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: commish
Floyd looks great in the post race interview. Says he wants it all.
527 posted on 07/20/2006 8:25:19 AM PDT by Vision ("...cause those liberal freaks go to farrrrrr")
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To: Baynative; NittanyLion; nutmeg; Eurotwit; leilani; luv2ski; Vision; BaBaStooey; green iguana
Notice that I didn't say 'inconcievable'! I know better, of course, because...:

'Boss, I do not think that word means what you think it does!" LOL!!!

528 posted on 07/20/2006 8:25:49 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: commish

Holy Cow! Floyd looks fresh as a daisy! I think the angels must have been pedaling for him today.He looks ready to go for another spin!


529 posted on 07/20/2006 8:26:03 AM PDT by leilani (Tu avais raison, Scarlett. Demain fut un autre jour!)
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To: leilani

Heheh.

Phil is Phab;)


530 posted on 07/20/2006 8:26:08 AM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: commish
Tomorrow whould be interesting. Will Kloden and T-mobile try to attack, or will everyone behave and wait for Saturday?

Can anyone else in contention allow Landis to be within 2' going into the ITT? They'll have to attack, unless there are other team goals to be met.

531 posted on 07/20/2006 8:26:19 AM PDT by kevkrom (Posting snarky comments so you don't have to)
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To: af_vet_rr

Didn't Lance have like a 1:20 lead going into Paris on one of his tours and no one bothered to attack?


532 posted on 07/20/2006 8:28:38 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: gopwinsin04

1'20" is pretty compelling, esp w/ the typical short parade route into Paris


533 posted on 07/20/2006 8:29:36 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: Ready4Freddy

Amazing effort today.

I am speechless.


534 posted on 07/20/2006 8:29:51 AM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: leilani
Holy Cow! Floyd looks fresh as a daisy! I think the angels must have been pedaling for him today.He looks ready to go for another spin!

What is amazing is that Floyd has done this his way too. he did not break the backs of his teammates like others have done. Yes, he used them on the first climb, but then it was all Floyd Landis, and Saturday if he is to win, it will be all Floyd Landis.

It has been said many times that he didn't have the killer instinct to shred his team to pieces for himself. Well he found a way to do it without doing that.

535 posted on 07/20/2006 8:30:00 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: kevkrom
Stage 18: Morzine-Avoriaz to Mâcon - 197km

Course: Although there are Cat. 2, Cat. 3 and Cat. 4 climbs in the middle section of this 197km stage from the Alps through the Jura mountains to the Saône Valley, the whole course is on wide routes nationales. The stage is likely to open with constant attacks before a breakaway establishes itself on the hills in the middle part of the stage. The last 50km are almost completely flat before the 400-meter final straightaway in the northern part of Mâcon. More

536 posted on 07/20/2006 8:30:28 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: Eurotwit

I'm sitting in my chair and still can't believe what I just saw.


537 posted on 07/20/2006 8:31:48 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: kevkrom; green iguana; commish; BaBaStooey; leilani; luv2ski; Vision

I've been thinking all day - now, this is gonna make people sit up & take notice of this Tour's 'forgotten stage', tommorow's. I bet it won't just be the sprinters out there trying to snag the last few points!!


538 posted on 07/20/2006 8:32:12 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: Ready4Freddy
Not only that, but at that point of the race, the sprinters/flat-landers are exhausted and way out of contention (if they weren't completly dropped, since there are cutoffs at certain points). What you end up with is the long-haul/mountain types and it's not often that they can make up that much time against similar riders on a flat stage.

Even though the ITTs are not as tough as say today's stage, in the past Lance, and now Landis, did well in them because they were able to pace themselves a lot better than other riders. I don't know how they can do it.
539 posted on 07/20/2006 8:32:19 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

TT's are a total 'inside job' (as was Landis' ride today)


540 posted on 07/20/2006 8:33:40 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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