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Tour de France: Stage 17 Live Thread (Thursday, July 20, 2006) Col de Joux-Plane
VeloNews.com ^ | July 20, 2006 | VeloNews.com

Posted on 07/19/2006 9:15:41 PM PDT by nutmeg

Stage 17: St. Jean de Maurienne to Morzine-Avoriaz -200.5km

Course: This is almost identical to the stage in 2000 when Marco Pantani attacked on the first climb (the 15km, 6.4-percent Saisies) and forced Armstrong's U.S. Postal squad to chase for 100km over the Aravis, Colombière and Châtillon climbs to the foot of the day's main obstacle: the mighty Col de Joux-Plane (11.7km at 8.7 percent). It was partway up the Joux-Plane that Armstrong bonked and could only watch as Ullrich and others rode away from him, and he conceded almost two minutes by the finish in Morzine.

History: Morzine has seen 13 finishes of the Tour, including that one six years ago, which was the last time the ultra-steep Joux-Plane was climbed in the Tour. The only Tour winner to win a stage into Morzine was Pantani, who scored a solo victory here in 1997, the year before he won the Tour. Morzine's mountaintop neighbor, Avoriaz, has seen stage wins by two other Tour champions, Lucien Van Impe and Bernard Hinault.

Favorites: If riders are still battling for podium spots, then the Joux-Plane climb and descent suits Leipheimer and Landis. But it's more likely that a long-distance break will succeed, giving a rider like Michael Rasmussen a chance to win the stage and the King of the Mountains competition.

Graphics by CyclingNews.com


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: cycling; greenmachine; miracle; tdf; tdfstagethread; tourdefrance
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To: af_vet_rr
After Floyd Landis regained the lead of the Tour de France at the top of L’Alpe d’Huez he decided that he wanted a beer to celebrate the moment. On the road down to his hotel, his team car pulled over and the American traded a yellow jersey for a six-pack of beer with a spectator

Maybe we know why he did so poorly yesterday.
261 posted on 07/20/2006 7:10:14 AM PDT by Vision ("...cause those liberal freaks go to farrrrrr")
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To: luv2ski; commish; Vision; green iguana
My gut feel is that Landis will hold on, but not grab yellow today. I think we're gonna tie the record for 8 different riders to wear the maillot jaune in one Tour.
262 posted on 07/20/2006 7:10:15 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: Vision

16:08 CEST
O'Grady is caught, as he was probably asked to continue riding hard until this climb. He does some work, but Gonchar takes over again and O'Grady falls backthrough the bunch.

Why didn't CSC tell him to sit up earlier and wait? Then he could have helped out on the chase.


263 posted on 07/20/2006 7:10:15 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: commish

4:10 PM Peloton
is nearing the top of the climb. The gap at the top of the Cote de Chatillon sur Cluses is 8:03


265 posted on 07/20/2006 7:10:34 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: commish

T-mobile have joined the chase.


266 posted on 07/20/2006 7:10:51 AM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: BaBaStooey

Peleton crests at 8:03. They are making some time back, and more importantly for Sastre, Kloden and co -- Perreiro looks completely shelled, he is toast on Juex Plane. It may not be Floyd when all is said and done, but we will have a new Yellow tonight.


268 posted on 07/20/2006 7:11:44 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: Eurotwit

7'58"


269 posted on 07/20/2006 7:12:48 AM PDT by kevkrom (Posting snarky comments so you don't have to)
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To: luv2ski; commish; Vision; green iguana

This is surreal, Landis racking up KOM points! LOL


270 posted on 07/20/2006 7:13:04 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: gopwinsin04

Yes, if he succeed today, then he will enter in the "légende du tour", for sure. But for the moment he has never won any stage on the Tour...


271 posted on 07/20/2006 7:13:20 AM PDT by Republicain
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To: Vision
Maybe we know why he did so poorly yesterday.

I heard a commentator say it was a food/liquid problem, implying that Landis ran out of steam/energy on the course (that he wasn't eating/hydrating enough). Let's hope he wasn't thinking "Beer, it's what's for dinner!" :)
272 posted on 07/20/2006 7:13:23 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: kevkrom

Gap is starting to go back up. 8:05 now.


273 posted on 07/20/2006 7:13:55 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: luv2ski
Come on! Floyd! You can do it! I'd give anything to be able to crawl through that TV screen & stand over there on the side of the road right now to scream my lungs out for him!
274 posted on 07/20/2006 7:13:55 AM PDT by leilani (Je vais y réfléchir demain. Après tout, demain est un autre jour !- Autant en emporte le vent)
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To: Baynative
Did Phil just say he's consumed 6 GALLONS of fluid already?

That's what I heard, and I can believe it.
275 posted on 07/20/2006 7:14:19 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Republicain

What a way to enter the history books!


276 posted on 07/20/2006 7:14:20 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: leilani

1 km from the sprint.


277 posted on 07/20/2006 7:14:40 AM PDT by BaBaStooey (I heart Emma Caulfield.)
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To: af_vet_rr
Or worse yet - 'Beer - breakfast of champions!'

Let's hope he wasn't thinking "Beer, it's what's for dinner!" :)

278 posted on 07/20/2006 7:14:56 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: af_vet_rr

Bernard Hinault said that Floyd looked like he had a Food Crater on the climb yesterday. and based on the amount Floyd is drinking and eating today -- Floyd knows it too.


279 posted on 07/20/2006 7:15:12 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: commish
16:11 CEST Landis is pedalling at 90-95 rpm, keeping a strong tempo and - importantly - in the aero position

16:12 CEST 171.5km/29km to go Voigt, Gonchar and Vandevelde hammer the peloton on the flat as we approach the foot of the Joux-Peane. This is an 11.8 climb at 8.5% (ouch!!). Things will change there.

280 posted on 07/20/2006 7:15:26 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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