No, it isn't. The topic was debt. Debt was on the menu. It's wrong of you to say I lied, unless debt was never up for consideration.
And it's really rich of you so to say, considering that Lincoln wouldn't even talk to those people, not even the Virginia commissioners who came to talk to him before Sumter. They finally got to see him, but by then he had his war, and he was no longer interested in peace, but in beating down the South. Which I tend to believe was his entire (secret) platform.
An end to secession was not on the table.
Should it have been? And anyway, we were talking about the national debt.
And if Lincoln had surrendered to southern demands then there was a vague offer to settle "all questions of disagreement".
Pretty damn vague, because Lincoln wouldn't talk to them, period.
Nothing specific, nothing concrete, no offer to take care of the south's portion of the debt or guarantee access down the Mississippi. If the Union had accepted the Southern demands and recognized the legitimacy of the Southern secession then what leverage did they have to get the south to do anything?
Lincoln was starting a war, and you're complaining about "leverage"? You need to get over yourself.
And where, exactly, does it say that. You're the big one for everything being explicit, nothing implied. Show me where the Davis regime was willing to talk about debt and payment for property stolen.
And it's really rich of you so to say, considering that Lincoln wouldn't even talk to those people, not even the Virginia commissioners who came to talk to him before Sumter.
And again what was there to talk about? All the commissioners were sent with the purpose of obtaining recognition of confederate sovereignty. The Union position of an end to secession wasn't on the table. So to say that the commission was there to negotiate anything is false. They were there to get Lincoln's surrender. For him to sign off on the legality of all the southern actions to date, which would have to include their walking away from their obligations and stealing everyhing that they could get their hands on. And as for Governor Letcher's proposals, well considering that they called for an end to personal liberty laws, protection of slavery in D.C., opening the territories to slavery, in short everything that the south had demanded it's little wonder that Lincoln saw no reason to meet with him.
Should it have been? And anyway, we were talking about the national debt.
Why not, if the southern commission was there to negotiate instead of demand. And your unsubstantiated claim that the south was there to negotiate debt falls apart when you look at the whole picture. Say Lincoln recognized the southern secession then what? Having gotten what they came for what reason is there to believe that they would have negotiated anything in good faith? What leverage did the North have anymore? It's like I propose that you and I end a partnership by you signing a paper saying I'm not responsible for mutual debts built up during the partnership. With me saying that once you sign the paper I'll pay my fair share, I promise. Would you be fool enough to accept that?
Pretty damn vague, because Lincoln wouldn't talk to them, period.
Pretty damn vague because that was what the south wanted. No promise to do anything, once recognition was obtained.
Lincoln was starting a war, and you're complaining about "leverage"? You need to get over yourself.
Davis started the war. You need to get over that fact.